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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 10:58 AM
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Ruy Teixiera : smear boat 'an almost unmitigated fiasco'

August 28, 2004

What that "Awful" LA Times Poll Really Means

"But the Bush campaign made a profound miscalculation. In the L.A. Times survey, only 18% of the voters had been convinced that "Kerry misrepresented his war record and does not deserve his war medals" while 58% said Kerry "fought honorably and does deserve" them. Independent voters sided with Kerry 5 to 1. Even men and self-described conservatives - groups that are normally quite pro-Bush - strongly supported Kerry, by 59 to 19 for men and 42 to 29 for conservatives. Other polls, such as the Fox/Opinion Dynamics and Annenberg Center for Public Policy survey found similar attitudes. In the Fox poll, even most veterans held, by 50% to 21% that Kerry deserved his purple hearts.

Moreover, Americans did not buy Bush's transparent attempts to pretend his campaign was not involved with the smear. The Gallup poll showed that more Americans think Bush is responsible for the commercials (50%) then do not (44%) and 56% think he should specifically denounce them while only 32% think he should not. An August 26 Annenberg Center survey found very similar attitudes.


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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:01 AM
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1. It is encouraging to see people thinking for themselves and seeing
through lies.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:14 AM
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2. the smear ads shored up both bases, but drove the indepdendant/undecided
to Kerry. I'd call it a net gain.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:21 PM
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7. DING DING DING!!!! eom
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:19 AM
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3. A perfectly good smear
Shot to hell by a whole host of inconvenient facts. Well, according to the Daily Howler, it looks like the media lackeys did their best, but sometimes a pig looks like a pig, even with lipstick on.

I'll sure miss Monique.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:27 AM
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4. But, but, we have to latch onto any excuse to panic!!
:freak:
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QuidditchFan Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:06 PM
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5. Thanks for bringing some sanity to the board! <nm>
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:17 PM
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6. indeed
Please say it out loud:
"The smear did not work."
Deep breath and say it again.
Now go organize to Get Out The Vote.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:27 PM
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8. slight edit... "Bush's smear did not work."
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:28 PM
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9. 18% now believe Kerry lied about his war record
Sorry... how's this a win?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:32 PM
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10. I think Bush will get more than 18% of the vote
so one can assume these are people who hated Kerry's guts from day 1.
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:32 PM
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11. And 18% of Americans probably believe the moon landing was a
stunt fabricated in a Hollywood studio. Some people just never come to grips with reality.

18% is actually a low number for the amounts of total idiots in the country.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:58 PM
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12. Thank you for sharing this -- I am so tired of the panic posts
Ahhhh "kerry's campaign isn't doing enough". This is very encouraging and shows that the campaign handled the matter appropriately.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 01:03 PM
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13. And the Kerry SBVT bump will increase when people can see "Bush's Brain"
n/t
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