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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:25 AM
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The irony is that Palin is where she is because of feminism (a DEM. movement).
I'm old enough to remember the feminism movement that was stirring in the 60's and made advances in the 70's.

Births weren't covered under medical insurance at that time, usu., because they weren't considered medical matters. (Complications of births were covered.)

Birth control wasn't covered under med. ins. (still isn't, usu.)

There were few women professionals in the country...one woman lawyer in my city, no female doctors. Women were taken to task for doing work that men needed (the argument: men needed work more than women because they have families to support; besides, women aren't as good as men at doing work; besides, women take off work to have babies and for sick children and such, so they can't perform at work as well).

You think pay is unequal now? Back then, it was openly admitted that women were being paid less because they were women. That wasn't acknowledged as not being a good reason; a lot of people just thought that way. Women are worth less.

Who pushed for women to have more rights? Equal rights? Besides a lot of ordinary people and authors and notable personalities, it was the Democratic Party. Who FOUGHT the idea of women having more rights? The Republicans.

So....how IRONIC is it that Palin stands up there on the stage and touts her background and "expertise," while throwing jabs at an African American for having made accomplishments through hard work on his own....BECAUSE of those she is deriding?

If HER party had had its way decades ago, SHE wouldn't be where she is today! SHE wouldn't have been elected governor. She probably wouldn't even have been elected mayor of her hamlet. She WOULD have been allowed to join the PTA, though.

Ironic. Truly two-faced, they are.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:27 AM
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1. Very true. nt
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:27 AM
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2. Don't forget Unions
her parents belonged to teachers unions, and her husband is a USW. She benefited growing up because of what Unions provided her.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:30 AM
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3. How true indeed
What saddens me is that so many puke women can't even see the level of hypocrisy that is the foundation of Palin's candidacy.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:30 AM
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4. Just like...
...Clarence Thomas is where he is today due to Affirmative Action.

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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:31 AM
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5. Is he? How so? nt
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:15 PM
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11. Almost every step of his education and career
"As a young student, Thomas entered the College of the Holy Cross, a Jesuit institution in Massachusetts, after the school began a black recruitment program. Thomas was the beneficiary of a similar minority program a few years later at Yale Law School. As a young lawyer, Thomas aimed at a career outside the ambit of civil rights. However, for his effort, he earned appointment as the heard of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission."

http://www.oyez.org/justices/clarence_thomas/
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:34 AM
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6. you mean because of community organizers like Susan B. Anthony
and Gloria Steinem and many others?
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:07 AM
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12. Exactly. (Well, Steinem was a journalist & is an author.) Remember Phyllis Schafley?
A very conservative Republican who was on the TV talk shows and radio shows & interviewed in magazines....she mounted a campaign AGAINST women having equal rights or even working outside the home. (Of course, even as a kid I noticed...hey, isn't she a mother who is working outside the home when she appears on all these talk shows? But we mustn't ask questions.)

Wonder what she thinks of Palin? I think Schafley is still alive.
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:49 AM
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7. FYI
Senate vote on ratification of the 19th amendment: 36 republicans and 20 democrats for and 8 republicans and 17 democrats against. Vote carries 56 to 25. August 26 1920.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:54 AM
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8. Of course, the parties were very different in 1920
Almost the entire New England delegation consisted of liberal Republicans.
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:11 PM
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9. Must have been something in the water. n/t
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:15 AM
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14. Plus, my post wasn't about voting rights. It was about working outside the home & having authority
positions of employment.

Voting rights - granted decades after black men were granted voting rights. And women had to actually go to jail for it.

Working outside the home for equal pay, and getting employment in high power, authoritative positions - Still not happening for most women, but it's coming along.

Republican Party - Look at them. They have their first woman on the ticket decades after the Dems. They think it's historical. Of course it's not historical to do something decades AFTER it's already been done. Consists mainly of older, overweight, wealthy white men (& their wealthy white wives, a la McSame). The KKK, white supremacists, and rednecks belong to this party.

Democratic Party - Look at them. First to have a woman on the presidential ticket, decades ago. First to have Af. Americans in primaries, decades ago. First to have a man of color elected as its nominee for President. Look at a crowd of Dems....pretty diverse, all colors, all ages, poor and wealthy.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:09 AM
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13. Did I mention voting rights in my post? Read it again. (we know who you are)
we see you.....

:hide:

(here's a tip: Republicans are stupid. Non-Republicans, not so much. You have to re-read posts to understand the content. Others, not so much. Republicans don't spot people like you in their midst. Non-Republicans, we spot stupid when we see it.)
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:27 AM
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15. Keep looking.
Education is your friend. Getting the historical facts correct takes a little checking. The democratic party was a very different party in 1920. Calling me stupid will not change the facts.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:12 PM
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10. And baby Trig survives because of science.
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