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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:21 AM
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Can Palin get away with shutting out the press?
I'm wondering how long this charade can continue.

How in the world can a vice presidential candidate refuse to speak directly to the American people
and answer questions?

This is so completely absurd. They're hiding her, obviously, because they know she will make a mistake
and they're aware that she knows nothing about most issues important in this country.

But this is someone that we're supposed to accept as the Vice President of our country, and potentially
the President of the United States?

This is disgusting.

I asked my husband why he thought they were keeping Palin from the press and he very emphatically said, "Because
they want to win!"

Can they possibly get away with a vice presidential candidate that doesn't have the intelligence or the knowledge
to talk with the press or make appearances on the Sunday talk shows?
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:22 AM
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1. i hope not
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:23 AM
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2. Yes she can get away with it, there is no way to force her, and there is no penalty to her doing it.
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 09:24 AM by Boz
This was the plan all along, the media will waste its time reporting about he dodging them rather than contrast between issues.

The media is done, and out for the count in this fight now its the ground game, no more mass communicating, its person to person.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:23 AM
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6. Except in the popluar mind whe she's called a chicken-shit for hiding out. (nt)
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:27 AM
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12. So.
Your going to hear that alot, So what, So what, So what.

and it is more powerful than any contrast. The ability to say So what, means there is no enforcement to a rule, no force to comply.

They have made it clear they are going to dodge and attack the media. So what we need the media more than they do and they know it, although that misses our ground game which is the changer.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:36 AM
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30. Well, the ground game is the most important game there is.
And popular opinion (and how to deal with it) are very important parts of that. Mocking the McCain campaign (note I said "campaign" not Palin) is the right thing to do. I think it will resonate with moderates and independents that the ticket isn't ready for the prime time, and that they have something to hide.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:45 AM
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37. Absolutley, I just think there isn't enough time for it to really sway anything.
Which is why the 50 state will really be put to the test.

Run by the 2000 number process, the one that says new registrations dont mean votes, and independents dont out weigh fundies and McCain could win with the ignore strategy.

Its all about whether the Obama ground game is real, I believe it is, I just hope it holds up.

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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:52 AM
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41. Obama's response to this should be....
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 09:54 AM by TwoSparkles
....to say nothing directly about Palin's absence or her lack of transparency and hiding from the press.

All he needs to do is get Joe Biden out there--everywhere! Do high-profile events with Biden taking
questions, asking questions, talking freely with the public---everywhere in this country.

Biden's presence, knowledge, and expertise will automatically draw the distinction between the ineffectual
Sarah Palin that McCain is hiding somewhere on his campaign bus--trying to memorize the world leaders from
index cards that Newt Gingrich made for her.

You can make Palin look bad without saying a word. People will see Joe Biden and hear his vast knowledge
and they'll automatically wonder where Sarah Palin is, and why she's hiding.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:57 AM
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42. Smart. I like your thinking. (nt)
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:02 AM
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44. yup... I think you're right about keeping Biden super busy
If time and schedules allow, it would also be tremendously visually effective (IMHO) to have lots of pictures of Obama and Biden together, because then the pictures of McCain all by himself, which the news programs will have to show in the interest of equal time, will make it even more obvious that Palin is hidden away in a secret location.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:05 AM
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46. Its the ground game person to person, Obama/Biden will win becasue the ground has been set
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:33 AM
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24. There is no way she can be forced and it's time we stop making her such an emphasis.
Anyone who does think that Palin is chickenshit is already going to vote for Obama, so there's no big deal there. Those who are already going to vote for McCain simply believe she is getting picked on and that the press is out to get her, so her avoiding the press is no big deal to them either.

This race is about Obama and McCain and that is where we should keep the emphasis and not obsess about Palin (did that hurt her view audience for her speech?) because that is what the Republicans would like us to do. Palin is not the most important issue in this campaign.
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gal Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:23 AM
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64. There is a penalty for it.
But it's one the American People have to put down...are you willing to vote for a candidate not willing to talk to you?
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:31 AM
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65. They were in 2004
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:23 AM
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3. Maybe for another week or so.... after that, it will become a running joke that will hurt them
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:30 AM
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17. How will it hurt them, there is no enforcement of hurt if they ignore the media.
They have already offset the damage by saying the media is going to attack them and slur them.

The media is only capable of hurting them if they need it they don't.

The media comes with questions, the TV doesn't, you can say anything you want to the TV no questions asked.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:33 AM
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27. The Obama campaign will mention it... EVERY DAY.... that she has yet to be interviewed....


"If she's afraid of Larry King, how can she handle Putin or Ahmedinijad?"


Trust me.. the campaign is on it.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:41 AM
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35. I do trust that the campaign is on it, but listening to Obama is only enforcment of people that
Obama already has. So what. People that don't think Obama is an authority will not think they are breaking rules because there are no rules.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:23 AM
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4. Sure. n/t
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:23 AM
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5. Sure she can get away with it
The press can't make her talk to them however, that doesn't bode well for her with thinking people of the US. Swing and Independent voters will begin to wonder why they aren't allowing her out on her own to talk.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:32 AM
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20. The key is "thinking people." Northwest Cable News just mentioned that Palin...
is getting a bounce from undecided women voters. Apparently, many Americans don't think much.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:38 AM
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34. Americans not thinking much is how we got boosh twice.
Americans not thinking made the elections close enough to steal. I was hoping that the last 8 years would equate to America hitting bottom and wising up, but I'm starting to think many Americans haven't learned a thing. :scared: :-(
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:10 AM
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58. The last major presidential candidate from Illinois, Adlai Stevenson, was
approached by a voter in the 1950s. "Governor, you have the vote of every thinking American," she said.

"That's nice," Stevenson replied. "But I need a majority."
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:04 AM
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45. wasn'it it Adlai Stevenson who said something like
"I'll need a lot more than that to win," when a woman told him that every thinking person will vote for him.
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:24 AM
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7. I think everyone should do letters
to the editor about it if she does...just pound the hell out of it.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:32 AM
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21. Why wait at all ~ she needs to be front and center Now!


If she is such a wiz kid, she doesn't need any down time.

People need to be sitting in front of her house and rotating night and day until she comes out to talk to the press.

I bet she is in hiding.

Chicken Little Sarah
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:35 AM
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28. I am going to work on a letter
call in to shows can't hurt...ya know roll that snow ball down the snow covered hill and watch it grow.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:04 PM
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74. Snowballs are so cool ~ Fired Up, ready to Roll!
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:25 AM
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8. She can't answer the questions.
She just can't. You need to be experienced, or educated, or very intelligent, or extremely well-trained to answer questions from reporters. She is none of these things.

Bush got around it by intense training plus, I believe, an ear-bud.

They don't have time for the training, but they might break out the ear-bud!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:25 AM
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9. The longer she stays in an
undisclosed location the more the media will ask about why she won't make public appearances.

She's made 2 speeches and that's all the American people get to make their decision on? Two speeches?

Sorry but that on't be enough for moderates and independents who will need more than that.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:33 AM
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23. They don't care about indies, they think they dont need them if they get out the fundies.
And without an opponent Obama/Biden wont be able to capture as many indys, because the reporting will be about the repubs ditching rather than contrasts
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:25 AM
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10. They will carefully -- very carefully -- script her.
That's what they're doing now.

Has she said anything since being introduced by McCain that was NOT scripted?

So right now, they're giving her the lines to memorize, including about foreign policy.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:27 AM
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11. My Question Is, Why Isn't The Press Outraged Over This?
If a pro athlete doesn't meet with the press after a game, the media flips out. The pro leagues force athletes to meet with the press.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:32 AM
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22. Jay Carney, the DC Bureau Chief from "Time"...
...seems to be leading the charge.

He seems livid about this.

Did you see him on MSNBC yesterday? He's known McCain for years, and he said (yes
this is a direct quote) that right now, McCain "is something right out of the 'Body Snatchers.'"

Carney talked about this petulant attitude toward him during an interview. When Carney
asked McCain softball questions, McCain snapped, "Read my book. It's all in there."

Carney said he looked directly at McCain and said, "Do I know you?"

It's obvious that McCain is pulling this bullshit, "I'm mad at the press and the press is evil"
charade, so he can have a justification for hiding his idiotic veep candidate. She can't answer
questions and they're afraid she'll blow it, so they're feigning outrage at the press to bide
them some time--during which she can memorize a few lines.

Pathetic and disgusting.

Joe Biden will meet with any press member at any time--and he has a vast knowledge of foreign policy, the
economy, national security and other major issues.

Palin--they have to hide. It's revolting and an embarrassment.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:36 AM
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31. Biden + Obama = TRANSPARENCY. McCain and Palin have things to hide.
I mean they MUST if they keep hiding her from everyone. They're hiding the fact that she's a damned moron and has to cram on all sorts of subjects. She's a mental midget in way above her head. Just dump her back in Wasilly, please, for the good of the nation.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:06 AM
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47. In fairness to McCain
He started this hostility to the press, including that bizarre interview in which he refused to discuss "honor", before picking Palin. He's just completely off his rocker.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:28 AM
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13. That's up to the press!
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 09:28 AM by RichGirl
We need to BOMBARD every media site and source. We need to remind them that THEY helped to create the war in Iraq because they failed to ask tough questions. Many of them will admitt that. We need to ask them if they have learned from that or are they going to do the same thing over again. When we have a totally inept president palin are they going to say..."my bad, I should have asked more questions".

They have a responsibility to inform the public. They have an opportunity to redeem themselves, and this time DO THE RIGHT THING!
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:28 AM
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14. Why is the pit bull w/ lipstick afraid of the lap dog press?
Because she can't withstand the scrutiny!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:28 AM
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15. I would have said yes yesterday
but today, she can't. Most people think she's been given a fair shake by the press.
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:28 AM
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16. By design..
...all that press bashing. She'll spurn the press and claim they're a problem.

They will all be nicey nicey in the hope to get her for an "exclusive" softball session.

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:13 AM
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60. I look for her to appear only at events that the media will advertise as "major"
and she will make her speech and leave with the media singing together about how great she is.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:30 AM
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18. They did it in 1988 with Dan Quayle. It worked then. But with the internet I don't think it works.
In fact it is a mistake. Stuff will boil around on the blogs and then "spill over" into the MSM. There will be clamoring for Palin to answer the questions raised. "Friendly" journalists will be recruited to ask "puff" questions to make her look good. But she will go off script at some point - it is bound to happen - and the resulting shitstorm will be worse than if she had accomodated the press. OTOH, she cannot "accomodate" the press because truly "the emperor has no clothes."

Rock, meet hard place.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:31 AM
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19. I predict she'll eventually go on say ABC
with a fully vetted interview with Charlie Gibson where she gets every question in advance. That's all fine and dandy TS because it'll only work more in our favor when she has to debate Biden next month and gets exposed as being the empty pantsuit she is
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the Sundance Kid Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:33 AM
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25. not a chance
she will be dismissed by the Public if it appears she fears being questioned.
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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:33 AM
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26. If you have been paying attention for the past eight years, there are never any consequences for
anything a repuke does. Committing crimes does not result in even an investigation.

What makes you think she will suffer any consequences for ducking the media?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:37 AM
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33. I'd like to think that the American people won't...
...stand for this!

Yes, the Republicans will try to get away with hiding their incompetent, incapable candidate.

However, voters will be highly skeptical of a candidate who hides from the media.

I think the Republicans can try to hide her and keep her from the media--but I would HOPE that
the fallout would be more votes for Obama and fewer for McCain.

How in the world could anyone support a VP, who might end up being the President, who doesn't have
the guts or the knowledge to answer questions and talk with the American people without a script
written for you by a Bush speech writer?

I just can't imagine that this would work--if they want to win the election.



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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:48 AM
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39. They stood for it in 2004 and that was with several people that had COMMITED KNOWN CRIMES
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:57 AM
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43. Sarah Palin is an unknown...
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 10:04 AM by TwoSparkles
She just arrived on the scene.

People want to know more about her. It's not just people like us, who know she's a cream puff
who doesn't know anything. Many are just curious about her and they want to hear what she
has to say. They want to know that she can answer questions and that she has knowledge of
foreign policy, the economy and other important issues.

When she remains hunkered down and hiding---this will not bode well for her.

I agree that the Republicans have tried this before, but never with a vice-presidential candidate who
most people have never heard of before.

This will backfire.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:08 AM
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50. Dan Quayle, Spiro Agnew and both tickets WON
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 10:16 AM by Boz
I agree that the Republicans have tried this before, but never with a vice-presidential candidate who
most people have never heard of before.


Theyve done it before twice, and both tickets won

In fact Spiro Agnew was in the same shape going in six years from County Executive to Vice President of the United States
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:42 AM
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53. and the Democrats were in disarray both times. The Chicago convention
branded the party and in 1988 GHWB was the sitting VP of an enormously popular President with a weak opponent.

the conventions of 1968 and 1972 were used to drag down the Democratic standard bearers repeatedly

This time we have an amazingly capable team and an extremely smart campaign team and a ton of fired up surrogates ready to lead the charge.

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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:45 AM
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54. I absolutely believe we will win this time, I just think its stupid to not learn lessons from the
past and be ignorant of what has come before.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:43 AM
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36. This is a gift
It reinforces that Palin is a trailer trash lightweight version of Cheney.

Tales of corruption abound, running scared from the press, and an obvious disregard for the common people.

Obama is willing to go to Saddlebrook, Obama is willing to go on O'Reilly.


Dick Palin, I sez.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:47 AM
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38. Exactally, rules only matter when there is an enforcable penalty that is used by force
We still have bush BREAKING LAWS and cant get that enforced, what the hell makes you think political faux pas will have any bite.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:35 AM
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They're going to try to freeze out questioning her until the first debate.
Between now and then, they'll hide her away, try to avoid allowing her to answer any questions, just give speeches. They'll attack media who get aggressive about it, and say FU to those who are most persistent.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:35 AM
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29. Here's a SLOGAN for that
say it with me, spread it around, make it VIRAL..

SARAH PALIN, STEP UP OR STEP DOWN!

SARAH PALIN, STEP UP OR STEP DOWN!

SARAH PALIN, STEP UP OR STEP DOWN!

SARAH PALIN, STEP UP OR STEP DOWN!

SARAH PALIN, STEP UP OR STEP DOWN!
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:37 AM
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32. Only if the press let her.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:35 AM
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68. Or worse- if DEMS let her. (see link)
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:51 AM
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40. Haven't you noticed the last 8 years? They do what they want.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:07 AM
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48. Cheney Did.
But of course, he HAD a RESUME of SERVICE.
See You Next Tuesday Sarah...is an abuser of power, with an annoying voice!
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:07 AM
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49. It's that terrible liberal media they'll avoid. Limpballs, O'Liely and locals Repubs will ....
book her so the RW can say she's out there.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:09 AM
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51. i suspect they will play the 'media victim' card till the election
big old bad media doesn't like sarah, so she won't come out and play
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:09 AM
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52. The media should return the favor and shut her out. nt
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BigAnth Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:04 AM
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55. If they can't talk to her they'll dig for dirt and talk to other folks about her.
It's just going to hurt her in the end.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:42 AM
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72. Just like when they dug up all that dirt on Bush when he wouldnt give press conferences...Oh wait...
Seriously- DEMS will have to force the media's hand- here is my idea how:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6948541
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:08 AM
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56. I seriously hope not
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 11:24 AM by butlerd
It would be unprecedented AFAIK for any VP to completely avoid the press in the run-up to a national election and I have a hard time believing that the independent/undecided voters will vote for McSame, particularly since he is now running with an "invisible" VP candidate who happens to only be a "heartbeat away from the Presidency". My faith in the electorate and the MSM is at an all-time low but I sincerely hope that people care more about fixing the highly visible problems in our country than having a woman VP. I'm beginning to think that the McSame campaign played up the MSM's "sexism" against and "attacks" on Palin just so that they could provide themselves with an excuse for her to not have to "subject" herself (and, of course her family) to the press, at least not without a script handy. I have no doubts that their "base" will understand and support their avoidance of "the press" (which they loathe with a passion anyway) and gleefully pull the lever for McSame (but really for HER) on November 4. Frankly, I think that, for those watching, Sarah Palin told everybody in the world who Sarah Palin is and what she "knows" and stands for in her "speech" on Thursday and I sincerely hope that enough people are offended and turned off by her that they wouldn't think of voting for McSame just so they could get her as VP. At the very least, I hope that there is enough common sense left among the remaining independents/undecideds to refuse to vote for an "invisible" VP candidate (particularly one who, god forbid, might very well need to suddenly assume the Presidency).

:scared:
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:08 AM
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57. Yes. The press will be busy bashing Obama and praising McCain. nt
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:12 AM
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59. Look at what the press has done over the course of the last 8 years. eom
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:16 AM
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61. Only if we let her
I like Obama's decision to ignore her. I think independent entities like Move On should be attacking her with political ads. Let the airwaves be deluged with ad after ad covering her various scandals and unethical behavior. Let her have to rebut it. If she chooses to leave it out there unrebutted, so be it.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:19 AM
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62. But..but LOOK! She's speaking on TV!
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:22 AM
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63. Can she...? Two words: Dick Cheney
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:32 AM
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66. Of course they can. Because the media doesn't challenge them
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:37 AM
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70. But DEMS could challenge both the media & Pailin in 5 seconds flat. (see link)
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:34 AM
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67. She could if DEMS let her- but here is my idea to force their hand (link)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6948541

Please let me know what you think, or give your ideas.

Of course the GOP/media could get away with it if we let them- the question is: what are we going to DO to make sure they dont?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:37 AM
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69. Ultimately, no.
I don't believe she can.

She's a media-created "celebrity", but if she doesn't perform for her makers, they will eventually destroy her.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:39 AM
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71. Just like media destroyed Bush & Cheney after they didnt perform. Oh, wait.
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 11:41 AM by Dr Fate
Waiting for the press to do the right thing might be the wrong path- here is my idea:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6948541
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:53 AM
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73. Those are good ideas. nt
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