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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:41 AM
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OMG .. I cant believe what Rush Limbaugh just said
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 12:25 PM by TheCoxwain
.. He said Obama is for 'Infanticide'


Infanticide is a criminal act of killing child AFTER it is born

Probably he was meaning to say .. Foeticide( or Feticide) a broad term that includes abortion but also includes the killing a fetus deliberately such as kicking the belly of a pregnant women.



THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT .... THERE NEEDS TO BE AN OUTRAGE.. THIS IS SLANDER AND LIBEL AT ITS WORST .. WE NEED TO RESPOND

PLEASE K& R

.. I am updating with some useful link that abbiehoff provided below .. Thanks abbiehoff .. We need to go BAllISTIC on this ....we need to fight/ SUE ..




Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 05:13 PM by abbiehoff
This Illinois bill, which he voted against, was actually about the possibility of liabilty of doctors who performed a failed abortion that resulted in the birth of a live child.

http://writ.lp.findlaw.com/colb/20080813.html

on edit: He wasn't actually in the U.S. Senate when the Born Alive Act passed, but he did express that he was in favor of it.

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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:41 AM
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1. No, he said what he meant
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 11:41 AM by davepc
But you expect anything less then bullshit from him?
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:43 AM
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3. He is the King of Media right??
He can do what he wants and noone checks him on it!
K&R!!
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 02:50 PM
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72. Actually Howard Stern is the King of All Media.
Rush wishes he was popular enough to make his entire audience pay 13$/month to listen to him four times a week.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:42 AM
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2. We don't listen to that fat closeted addict; why do you?
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:43 AM
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6. it's an act of heroism in my book
Someone has to keep track of what the other side is saying. I would go postal after about five minutes of it, myself.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:43 AM
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4. I have seen the infanticide meme a lot lately. It is their way of both
claiming that personhood begins in the womb and that Obama is as evil as the incubator dumpers in Iraq. (Which I believe never happened and was just a wag the dog tactic.)
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:24 PM
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51. with the question being originally "when does a fetus get human rights"
(essentially), instead of "when does life begin", I want to know ... if a "viable fetus" or a clump of cells gets "human rights", does that extend to corporate negligence? Will the insurance companies be forced to pay for the death of a child if a person is pregnant and then loses the child?
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:51 PM
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59. At least that gives up on the first two months (not a fetus until after 8th week). n/t
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:25 PM
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61. Personally I would go with viablity of the baby as when the rights start. That doesn't
mean that corps should be let off the hook though, since the loss of the "clump" can be considered emotional and physical damage to the mother. However, I don't see how you can insure a person who doesn't essentially exist yet.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:29 PM
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62. Actually, the Saddleback question was "When does a BABY get human rights."
Those Christofascist fuckers handed Obama a loaded question like that--for a pro-choicer, you might as well ask when he stopped beating his wife.

Of course it was tailor made for a well-rehearsed McCain to say confidently "At the moment of conception."

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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:43 AM
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5. No, really, that's the rumor going around in emails, I've seen it!
He's just reinforcing it....:puke: :crazy:
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:43 AM
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7. Gingrich said the same thing on The Daily Show last night.
I thought the same thing - what BULLSHIT!
They are both slime.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:43 AM
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8. How do you know what he said?
Is there a transcript already?
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:44 AM
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10. I was listening to the show
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:24 PM
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60. It was a joke, you see.
I was writing as if it were out of the question that you could possibly be listening to that gasbag, while actually realizing that you obviously had been. It's called irony.
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 02:20 PM
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69. Dude .. I was listening not out of the intention of lapping up his shit ..
I tuned in as I was interested in how this asshole would spin the horrible McCain speech.

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:44 AM
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9. Limbaugh looks fatter than ever
They showed a brief clip of him on CNN this morning, and it looks like he's put on about another 30 pounds since the Republican convention.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:44 AM
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11. No, forreal, he wants to kill ALL BABIES!11 everywhere! ALERT THE MEDIA!!111!11
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:44 AM
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12. Rush is a drug addict and enjoys molesting young boys.
He's a boil on the anus of society.
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:44 AM
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13. It's Rush
who cares.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:45 AM
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14. They started this lie last week
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 11:46 AM by Canuckistanian
Something about one of his votes when he was a State Senator.

On edit:

Now, I remember. It came from that scumbag Corsi on some network show.
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:53 AM
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30. On the right track
I don't know all the details, but it was a state issue about legislation concerning what to do when an attempted abortion goes wrong and the baby is born alive. In other words, do you give medical care to that baby (who has already been born). The RW is saying that Obama voted to NOT give medical care to such a baby. Hence, the charge of infanticide.

Did Rush explain the background or just issue the slander?

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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:56 AM
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34. Just an item in a littany of charge ( taxes .. big govt ..blah blah blah)
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:44 PM
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56. Olberman fact checked and said Obama voted as he did because there were existing statutes on the
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 12:45 PM by emulatorloo
book to deal with the issue. Repugs of course are distorting it.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:45 AM
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15. I agree, I don't know why more politicians don't pursue litigation
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 11:46 AM by shadowknows69
I mean the evidence is always right there in print or recorded audio. They are notoriously hard cases to win but I think if a few people threatened and tried more often it might make the advertisers take notice. Once you can kill the money flow nothing on earth could keep Rush on the air. Except that he'd probably be funded directly from the GOP if no one else would.
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Ashy Larry Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:45 AM
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16. This isn't new.
They have been saying this for weeks now. They always point to some wing-nut stunt bill that the fundies introduced in the Illinois Senate. Obama voted against it because it was bullshit and letting a baby die was already illegal. The sad part is, lots of people are buying it. I'm pretty sure they were already against Obama but McCain is using it to fire up the fundie base.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:46 AM
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17. Problem is it's rhetoric to you and incitement to harm a candidate to others.
If you have a dittohead with access to weapons, who believes what Rush said as gospel and also believes that killing babies (literally, babies) is evil and must be stopped, it would be putting Obama in harm's way with one more motivation.

The FCC has to be involved with this one, IMO.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:46 AM
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18. No, a lot of conservatives who are pro-life feel that any abortion is murder of a baby
That's why they use the word "infanticide."

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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:47 AM
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19. Yep... the Infanticide meme seems to be a puke strategy
This doesn't need to be ignored or taken lightly...

At the same time, it doesn't need to be highlighted by too much of a reaction.

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chicagoexpat Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:47 AM
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20. They're trying to rev up the anti-abortion crowdIt worked against
It worked against Kerry in 2004
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:48 AM
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21. The Reps put up a bill that would mandate life support for fetuses
born alive after an abortion. I dont' know all the details but the bill would have ended up restricting abortions, a foot in the door to overturning Roe v Wade.

I think, but I'm not sure, that Obama only voted 'present' on the bill. He didn't want it to pass as it was written.

So the Reps are just trying to make hay out of nothing at all.

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:48 AM
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22. Nowhere near as bad as what YOU said
About baseball bat and what lipstick went on.
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:50 AM
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25. Dude .. I went nutty for a minute ... and I dont have an audience like Rush Limbaugh
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:48 AM
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23. You know, if Limpball's Mother had flushed the toilet after pooping him out,
Limpballs wouldn't be here today. He'd be doing something beneficial, like fertilizing crops somewhere. He's manure.
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ITsec Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:49 AM
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24. Slush Limpdick gets paid...
to say crap. As long as the cool-aid lemmings keep listening to him, his ratings skyrocket and he can buy more 24,000 sq foot homes in FL, fly around in $54 million dollar Gulfstream G550 jets and receive a $38 million a year paycheck.

Personally, the less I know about what Limpdick thinks, the better off I am. Phuk him.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:50 AM
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26. I think Obama needs to address this rumor
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:50 AM
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27. He's a fucking LIAR..he doesn't have to mean what he says.
FUCK the limp dick.
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bkcc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:52 AM
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28. That's the new GOP talking point.
I saw Gingrich on the Daily Show earlier this week referring to abortion as "infanticide."
Get ready to hear it all the time as it gets fed through the Republican echo machine.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:53 AM
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29. Here's a Media Matters post on this disgusting lie
"Myths and falsehoods regarding Obama's votes on "born alive" bills"

http://mediamatters.org/items/200808220022?f=s_search
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:26 PM
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54. thank you for this link
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:54 AM
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31. What do you expect from a total piece of shit
He sickens me.:puke:
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:55 AM
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32. Here's what he's talking about
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:55 AM
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33. He's been saying it for WEEKS. It's not a slip-up.
I can't wait to see the roof fall in on this piece of pus-gutted scum.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:56 AM
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35. They are all referring to a vote Obama made while in the ILL.
State Senate. There was a bill that was supposed to guarantee medical for any baby actually born as a result of a botched abortion. Obama voted againt it, but he explained SEVERAL TIMES already! The wording in that bill would have made it possible to put Drs. in JAIL and would also undermine Roe. He also explained that Shrub and the Congress in Wa. put together a similar bill but corrected the language, and he agreed with that one, which DID PASS!

This is just another Pub tactic of cherry picking PART of a fact and elminiating just enough of the total story to distort it's meaning.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:57 AM
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37. Stop listening to this bullshit!!!!!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:08 PM
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43. I don't ever listen to Limpballs or any of the wannabes, but I
did receive an email with that rumor in it. I KNEW that couldn't be right, so I looked it up. All I was saying here was what the radio idiots were doing and their distortion of the facts creates a LIE.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:25 PM
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53. This is a no-win issue.
I've been on other boards where the distortion on this issue is so huge that it would literally not be worth the effort to explain Obama's reasoning as to why he voted against it. From what I understand, the bill was a backdoor attempt at weakening Roe and was pretty much rejected on **both sides** of the aisle just for that reason.

But the pro-birth crowd has it in its head that Obama wants babies to die. You cannot argue with them because their irrationality on this issue precludes any kind of sane debate. And, really, how can you have any kind of discussion with them when they even view the use of contraceptives as infanticide?

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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:50 PM
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58. I agree
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 12:50 PM by TheCoxwain
Facts are the casualty in an uproar .. But atleast they will stop F'ing with us.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:51 PM
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64. I wish there were a way to reason with them.
But then I remember the old chestnut: Never argue with an idiot. People might not be able to tell the difference. Discussion too rapidly deteriorates to their Neanderthal level and by that time there's no point in continuing.

As a case in point, last year I made the mistake of joining in on a debate involving Terri Schiavo. I pointed out the state of Schiavo's brain and the virtual impossibility of her ever recovering. I also criticized those who saw her cause as a way to advance their own selfish agendas. I was called a Nazi.

When the argument becomes ad hominem, which is the stock-in-trade of these folks, you just slowly back away and hope that the rest of the country isn't that terminally ignorant.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:30 PM
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63. Akin to their stupid "hand over sovereignity to the UN" meme of a few months ago.
similarly based on bullshit.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:56 AM
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36. It's their new talking point for their base.
They all started using the disgusting term about a week ago.

Frank Luntz has been hard at work.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:57 AM
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38. This is about Obama's position on the "Born Alive INfant Protection Act"
It was a bill that required infants to be medically treated even if their birth was the result of an abortion... if they were alive at the point of birth. He voted against it repeatedly. I heard about this a few months ago and posted on it then. I was concerned that the pro-life crowd would make hay with it, but I was pretty much shot down at the time.. even got called a "concern troll":(
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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:03 PM
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40. Obama was in favor of the Born Alive Act
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 12:13 PM by abbiehoff
This Illinois bill, which he voted against, was actually about the possibility of liabilty of doctors who performed a failed abortion that resulted in the birth of a live child.

http://writ.lp.findlaw.com/colb/20080813.html

on edit: He wasn't actually in the U.S. Senate when the Born Alive Act passed, but he did express that he was in favor of it.
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:05 PM
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42. So WTF is the Drug Addict's Problem?
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:13 PM
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47. Thanks for that wonderfully informative link!
You have educated me:)

The author of that piece provided this link http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/ObamaCoverup.html which gives a more detailed explanation from the Right to Lifer's on their position. Honestly I wish Obama had done more to neutralize some of the power of the abortion issue early on. There are many many people of faith who love much of what he stands for, but they cannot reconcile themselves to voting for someone who is so adamantly in support of abortion rights. I know that's not a popular view around here... but that's what I see from where I sit.
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hasssan1 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:00 PM
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39. OBAMA MUST GO AFTER THIS FAT-FUCK HARD - THIS IS A WAR
I HOPE HE TAKES COUPLE OF EXTRA VIAGRA AND HIS PENIS EXPLODE ON THE RADIO :nuke:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:05 PM
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41. Rush's mother was childless.............
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 12:06 PM by Lastlaughin08
She gave birth to a turd.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:11 PM
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44. Why can't you believe it? Limpballs will say anything. He's a drug addict, for heaven's sake
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:13 PM
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46. This is not new, the pig repeats that several times every day.
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raebrek Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:12 PM
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45. Link to Media Matters on the subject.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:16 PM
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48. It's part of their Born Alive legislation strategy. Hitting him for his votes
on the Born Alive issue. I've been seeing it out there for at least a week
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:17 PM
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49. Gingrich said the same thing to Jon Stewart on Daily Show n/t
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:19 PM
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50. That is making the rounds in a lot of places.
What I've mostly read is that Obama favors leaving babies in linen closets to die.

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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:24 PM
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52. that strikes me as eerily similar to lies told by antisemites for centuries
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 12:24 PM by eShirl
about Jews
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:26 PM
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55. No, he meant infanticide
It's Rush, after all. I think stuff like this shouldn't be stood for, and Obama should sue him for slander. This isn't a misunderstood policy or a stretch of an opinion, it's a blatant lie and should be countered as such.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:45 PM
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57. i shit on him
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:54 PM
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65. It's actually the Republicans who kill babies with their dirty wars. n/t
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:55 PM
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66. Rush will be a zero factor....
he lost all (if any) credibility a long while ago with everyone except for his own base.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:56 PM
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67. have you monitored glenn beck lately????
all those cable channels are spewing filthy lies about Obama 24/7

there is nothing to counter it that I can see
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:58 PM
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68. Please don't post what Rush says here.
He's just a mental midget blathering to get attention.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 02:48 PM
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70. Thank you. If I ever want to know what Rush says, I'll go to a different board.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 02:48 PM
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71. .
:applause:
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