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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:41 AM
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How do Republicans get away with it?
They accuse us of being elitist, then Cindy McCain walks out wearing a $300,000 outfit and she gets away with it.

They accuse of us of destroying traditional values, then choose an adulterer for Pres and a woman whose family apparently practices premarital sex for VP, and they get away with it.

They accuse us of being radical and out of touch, and then choose a VP who spoke before a secessionist party and she gets away with it.

They accuse Obama's church of being anti-white, and then choose as VP someone who belonged to a church that's anti-Semitic, and she gets away with it.

They accuse us of hitting low on Sarah Palin, but throughout the last several months continuously hit lower, and they get away with it.

It seems as if the Independents permit the Republicans to engage in any game they want, while holding the Democrats to an entirely different standard. Why is that? How do the Democrats confront that?

Maybe the Democrats should run commercials that challenge the American people to hold both parties to the same standard?

Maybe the Democrats should run an ad that says, If the Republicans get elected, we are going to lose more than the 4,000 Americans we already lost. If you elect McCain, he will do what he knows best: Use our military first and our diplomats second.

Maybe the Democrats need to frighten people the way Republicans do. Maybe we need to update LBJ's daisy ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63h_v6uf0Ao
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:42 AM
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1. They pull off a Royal Family kind of BS, and remember average IQ is 100 .. nt
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:43 AM
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2. they get away with what we let them get away with
we need to be out there on the blogs, the news websites, the water coolers, the dinner tables, the LTTEs, the message boards any where politics are talked about. we need to be making our case and framing the arguments correctly.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:43 AM
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3. Complicit media.
Any other questions?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:49 AM
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15. shut down the media and that should be the end of it
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:24 PM
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22. Shut down?
Regulate.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:32 PM
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24. shut down first - get rid
and then regulate. These people are evil.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:44 AM
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4. They tell so many lies that it would take all day to cover them. When the media starts to...
They're accused of being "liberal" which scares the media into being silent.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:47 AM
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12. It sounds like Nazi 101
liberal=Jews
I don't know how they get away with flying the freedom banner and want a media that they can tell what to report.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:45 AM
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5. Republicans aren't beholden to truth--ever. They are in the marketing business, not
the governing business. They are a giant ad agency, and the media buys their ads and plays them, and the stupid public buys the product.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:45 AM
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6. They couldn't get away with it without the help of the "liberal" media.
Corporate whores.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:45 AM
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7. They are not afraid to lie to voters and treat them like idiots.
It's a very smart strategy, and one I wish we would use more often.

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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:45 AM
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8. They are masters at marketing
The only thing they are competent at is running campaigns
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:26 PM
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20. Bullshit - Big Media Is In The Tank - Fox News Is Not Biased Due To A Marketing Scheme
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:46 AM
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9. How many DEM surrogates were on TV today saying what you just said?
Zero you say?

Does that answer your question? ;)
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:46 AM
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10. Bookmarking. This should be a viral email
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:46 AM
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11. People don't realize how much the media has consolidated, from 50 down to 5 owners
1983 = 50 companies
2004 = 5

Media Reform Information Center chart and notes:

http://www.corporations.org/media/?PHPSESSID=818003fb345bd243945820d8a8836d2d


The people own the airwaves, so I wish we would put more regulations back in there.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:47 AM
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13. Because the Repiggies OWN EVERY TV NETWORK


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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:48 AM
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14. They use the three rules for trial attorneys:
1. If the facts are against you, argue the law.
2. If the law is against you, argue the facts.
3. If the facts AND the law are against you, give the other side all hell.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:53 AM
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16. Your post should be an ad.
It hits just about every nail on the head.

The sad part is that the 'pukes would see that list and accuse us of "whining" about the lunatic fringe media bias and would ratchet up the propaganda they spew on that media even more. Of course, as corporate heads, they own this same media and in a minute will tell you to "start or buy your own".

All I can say is thank god for the internet. They haven't figured out how to control that yet because it is too complex for them to figure out. But when they do, so long and good luck.... :nuke:
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:41 PM
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21. Inspired by fury
Every four years they do the same shit. If they attack, it's business as usual. If the Democrats attack, the Democrats are going negative or are desperate, and now they even have the audacity to say the Democrats are sexist, when there's is the party that blocked the ERA, denies women equal pay protection, dilutes discrimination laws, and even wants the law to regulate a woman's right over her own body. It's obscenely unfair.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:56 AM
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17. Face it - the repukes are better than Dems when it comes to running national campaigns.
Flame away - but it's true.

How else do they do it?
How do they get every one of their talking heads on every station saying the same exact thing?
They tell one lie after another, and NO ONE challenges it, except on the internets.

They attack community organizers, for heaven's sakes, and get away with it.

And at this very moment I have msnbc on and they are talking about how the Dems need to learn to attack Gidget without making it seem like it's they're going after her.

Why?

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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:25 PM
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19. I agree
But maybe the danger is we risk alienate our base. Let's face it, most of us really don't like all the sleazy politics, and the only joy Sarah Palin is bringing us is a sort of vengeance after all their lies and distortions against Clinton, Gore, and Kerry. I sometimes wonder if Democratic campaign pollsters believe the people who say they would be less likely to vote for a candidate who runs negative ads, even though that's bullshit. Negative ads apparently work whether people like them or not.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:32 PM
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23. Naive - Big Media. You Think The Democrats Can Hire Karl Rove...
and suddenly Fox News will become friendly to Democrats?

The sad thing is that liberals themselves fall for the bullshit about a liberal media. It does not exist. Aside from Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, who is a liberal on television? In contrast, the GOP has an entire network devoted to propagating conservative idealogy.

So, Democrats need to stop waiting for some magical stategy or politician that will control the media. It will not happen. We could hire Karl Rove, and Big Media would still be pro-corporate. Its not a question of tactics. Its bias.
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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:18 PM
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18. They know how to pander
to those whose voting decisions are based on personalities, hot-button topics, emotionalism and mud-slinging.

They know they don't generally appeal to issue-oriented voters so they deny, denigrate and belittle important issues and those to whom those issues are important.

They know how propaganda works, who it appeals to and how it increases their "base". The media plays their game because it's all about profits to them.

They depend on ignorance.

They don't play fair. It's all-out war to them.

They just happen to have an advantage right now that there are plenty of politically ignorant Americans who vote.

Democrats don't play their game because it's dishonest even though it works.

The only way around this mess is to prove that there are more voters who care about issues than who vote for personalities.
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