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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:03 PM
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Gallup: Obama 48 (-1), McCain 44 (+2)
http://www.gallup.com/poll/election2008.aspx

His bounce begins, however, it's interesting to note Obama only lost one point. Which means maybe his bounce is coming from undecideds and not Obama supporters.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:03 PM
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1. Statistically insignificant change.
Meaningless nonsense.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:04 PM
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2. Wow. That's IT?
Me like.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:04 PM
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3. That's a very small bounce. Bad sign for McCain. n/t
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:06 PM
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6. We'll see for sure by Monday.
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:12 PM
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23. Methodology
Gallup uses a tracking methodology where they keep a running total of several days' (3, I believe) results. Each day they poll a new sample, and drop off the old data. It will take a while to fully integrate the convention bounce.

But let's face it, McCain didn't exactly set the house on fire. In fact, he just FINALLY got it going at the end, and then they had to shut him down (perhaps a risk of heart failure at his advanced age!). I mean Jeffrey Toobin's "That was the worst acceptance speech since Carter <28 years ago>" might have been a little tough, but point taken.

Obama should come out of this week ahead and build momentum from there. I saw this again and again in primary season from the other (Clinton) side.

It's hard to run against a movement.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:04 PM
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4. Will that calm you down?
C'mon, man. Hang in there.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:05 PM
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5. tomorrow we will see the first impact of McCain's speech. By Monday it will probably be tied in
Gallup, but then gradually Obama will gain ground again.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:06 PM
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7. McCain's snoozer won't tie shit
Every NFL fan in the world came into that off an adrenaline high and promptly had to start popping no-doze just to stay awake.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:11 PM
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21. I'm not so sure. I'll bet you by Monday it will be statistically tied
That's not a bad thing. It's expected. Then Obama will regain his momentum.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:54 PM
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29. It may be tied, but it won't be McCain's speech that did it
and as for "statistically tied", that's a concept I don't believe in.

If you have two means, separated by some function of the standard deviation, it will *always* be more likely that the true mean of the larger value will be greater than the true mean represented by the smaller value. Assuming underlying normality of course.

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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:07 PM
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8. This is where McSame will peak....maybe 45. IMO/nt
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:07 PM
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9. If McCain isn't leading 5 days from now, he has ZERO
chance of winning.
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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:07 PM
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10. So far so good. Let's see what the next few days bring.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:07 PM
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11. Want to know something freaky? These are the EXACT numbers
that I thought they would be today.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:08 PM
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12. He's gained 4 points over the last week
From Friday (day after Dem convention ended) to today (day after Republican Convention ended). I don't think he gets much more. Barack didn't. We'll see.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:10 PM
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18. I think you could be right
Maybe a point or two more at the most.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:12 PM
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22. He may have pulled in a bit of his base, he had nothing to offer beyond that.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:08 PM
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13. No baby bump?
Come on, Palin/McCain, you can do it! PUSH!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:09 PM
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14. That, my friends, it ths Palin star power right there
:rofl:
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:09 PM
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15. ha ha ha! ROFL!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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tpi10d Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:09 PM
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16. so far so good
Nate at fivethirtyeight.com has good analysis of these polls.

Keep tracking polls in context though..as Axlerod wrote.
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President Decider Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:09 PM
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17. So much for your "BIG BOUNCE" theroy eah?
Now stop the fear mongering in other threads and grow a pair.

This is a fight we intend to win!

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:13 PM
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24. Uh, it's still possible.
We're not out of the woods yet and I think people need to be a bit cautious here. McCain very well may flop, but Obama didn't go from tied to +9 in one day, he needed a launching point and then steadily eased into his lead. I will say this, tomorrow's numbers will be key. If McCain gets only a 1-2 bump, he's in trouble. If, however, this thing is tied tomorrow, it'll be a pretty sizable bump for him.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:15 PM
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26. actually, he kinda did make the transition in one day
If we believe the poll reverse engineers, it was the day of the Palin selection.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:10 PM
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19. The full post-convention bounce will be revealed in the Mon. report
I wouldn't get too optimistic over this one.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:11 PM
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20. A couple more days before we see the impact in the average
I was waiting for Gallup - not as bad as one might have thought, though it'll get worse before it get's better (as you've stated in your other thread).
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:14 PM
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25. I think we'll know tomorrow.
Not fully, of course, but we'll have an idea of whether it's a big bounce, medium bounce or small bounce.

I was surprised to see Obama lost one point, though. I thought McCain would get within 5, but via Obama dropping 2 points and McCain rising 1.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:23 PM
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28. I think people have decided a bit earlier this time due to the polarized political environment
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 12:24 PM by HughMoran
Some people are swayed by the excitement of the moment, but I expect people to go back to their "home team" after it wears off. I think the better man will win in the end, this time we have both the more knowledgeable (we always have that) and more inspiring candidate. He is solid. The real difference will be who shows up - the new young voters or the "afraid of change" old curmudgeons. Please show up young people!
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:16 PM
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27. I don't even see a bounce-- check this link out
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:55 PM
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30. Relax people the bounce McCain is going to get will be reported Saturday thru Monday.
Come Wednesday next week, things will normalize. And the sheeple will probably have found something new and shiny to look at.
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vegansrule Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:03 PM
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31. NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS WHO CARES ABOUT NATIONAL POLLS!!!!!!!!!!!
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MAGIC NUMBER 270. KERRY GOT 252. WE NEED 17 MORE (269 GIVES US A TIE AND WE STILL WIN). I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH.
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