The Palin won't give interviews is a trap. We'll insist, they will cave, she will be brilliant.

It's the expectations. The "dem will win the debate" expectations that don't work to our advantage.

She will do press conferences, when they get her ready, and she will do well especially if we are clamoring for it, saying "Where's Sarah Palin".

Don't fall into the trap.

"Why dont you interview her and ask her yourself?- Oh, that's right- she refuses to answer questions."

That took five seconds, and doesnt distract from any issues or from targeting the McCain ticket...

She will do the Sunday talk shows soon. She needs to do some intense lernin' first.

All politicians are reluctant to do open-ended interviews. Wasn't Hillary knocked because all her appearances were scripted and she wouldn't take questions?

Why would any campaign bother about her when we're running against McCain, not ?

They will cave, eventually. They're waiting for the media to jump the shark on the scandals after they've been crystallized in the American mind. Already they've spun the unwed teen mother pregnancy thing into a positive. Troopergate will follow.

Once thats happened and the media no longer will talk about this ugliness she'll come out snarky and charming to the media. The GOP isn't stupid, they play for keeps and this will be no different.

Obviously we're looking at,yet another, razor thin election.

this election will even be close. I am feeling extremely positive right now.

Obama doesn't have to do that. Certainly Biden does not.

and I can imagine some interviews being canned.

I just posted two media interviews that Palin did this year. One was on CNBC with Larry Kudlow, the
other was with Glenn Beck.

She did very, very well.

She may not know much, but she is a gifted speaker and she's very fake and charming. Her communication
skills are her strong suit.

I guess you are right. Instead of asking, "Where is Sarah Palin?" we should be specifically talking about her
totally wacked religious views and her out-of-the-mainstream views on other social issues.

Why the fuck are so many cretins here focusing on this fucking troll?

The less the undecided and fence sitters hear from her and the more they hear from McCain
the more worried they should be about the McCain ticket.

Profiling her to the public won't be enough to keep her image strong and I bet the press
will feel slighted after awhile.

Tikki

If they won't let her do interviews, fine with me. Saves me having to hear her grating voice all the time. We can't let her be a distraction.

You are right that DEMS should stay on message- but I think we could take out 5 seconds to ask a media person "Why dont you interview her and fiond out for yourself" whenever a DEM is asked about her. Then answer the question themsleves: "Oh- I forgot- she doesnt answer quetions..."

I know, I know, that's "just what they want us to do."

Of course, after she has been briefed after two or three weeks, she'll be up to speed enough to do okay in a press conference.

But the point is that if she is the best qualified Republican woman in the whole country now to be vice president (and she was just officially nominated to play that role), why doesn't she do all of the news talk shows THIS Sunday or next Sunday?

For the next two or three weeks I think this is a great line of attack to demonstrate that she truly isn't ready and that McSame blundered big time.

She's able to handle the media just fine. She should get on with it already.

when it comes to national politics. Stop being so frigging paranoid and use your head. :banghead:

:silly:

:rofl: Please. Biden is going to make her look like the uniformed fool she is. No amount of tutoring between now and then will get her to Bidens level. Its laughable.

She'll be a moron when it comes to the issues but she'll be "charming" and "witty" or whatever and her utter lack of qualifications will be lost in the spin.

And once the novelty wears off... her game is over.

Many people think McCain's speech was shit, even the guys at Fox, while MSNBC and CNN operatives were all over it like white on rice. Ditto for Palin's speech, which wasn't witty, funny, or ad-libbed. I actually would have preferred to listen to Cindy McCain all night than Sarah Palin, she's awful; just as bad as Mrs. Bush.

dems need to STOP viewing this situation from dem eyes

to win, we need to see things from the enemy's eyes, that's the only way to know how to attack successfully

Give an example if youre going to attack me.

they are letting Lieberman coach her on foreign policy :rofl:

"Never since Winston Churchill have we witnessed such a grasp of global politics. Mrs. Moose, who had to leave early in order to shoot something, gave an outstanding performance, juggling her baby and her AK47 without even mussing her make up . . .

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cocktail napkin worthy? :shrug:

I could go for that.

She'll be awful unscripted. Her experience as a talking head is just that, a talking head.

And the media gets bored with new toys, quickly. She's already got as much positive press as she'll get; this is the apex we're seeing.

More scandals to come will ensure any press she gets will be negative.

That is why we need to demand one for TOMORROW- before she crams


You fall into the trap if you let them go on their own schedule.

We need to be asking why she cant give interviews RIGHT NOW- not 3 weeks from now...

I think that at the least, it should be pointed out that she refuses to be interviewed, and the media refuese to preassure her.

And what makes you think she will be brilliant? Even right now, she is still reading a speech she already gave from notes.

Here is how I would handle it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6948541

Who wouldn't? There are a thousand questions she could be asked across the vast array of issues that a VP would need to deal with. They can't prepare her to speak deeply on everything in these next few days, even if they do have bush's team on it.

She'll often have to resort to her "off the cuff Alaskan mode" which, though folksy, is unlikely to satisfy the press.

We've seen the videos with the long pauses when he is presented with posers like how he voted on some issue or what his own stand is on something else.

What a strange ticket.

investigations into her background, and keep reporting the findings. If she doesn't want to refute anything, or tell her side, that's fine! Let her fade off all the TV'S into lala land!

As far as I know, one of the main things every campaign tries to do is to stay in the media, because out of sight is out of mind!

Soon they will be just a blip on the radar- they will fade into lala land.

Err- wait.

What we had with the Swiftboaters was the MEDIA paying attention and constantly playing their spots, and Kerry was ignoring them.

NOW, it's dimwit Sarah who is trying to hide. The MEDIA is trying to get her for interviews, but the Pubs don't want that. I SAID, the MEDIA MUST continue their investigating of her background, and continue to report their findings. So far, none of their findings have been GOOD! Obama must continut to run against McNuts! Biden should continue to campaign on the issues & CONTINUE to point out the horrible things the Pubs have done for the past 8-10 years and why they should NEVER be elected. If Sarah levels something directly at Joe or the Dem campaign, Joe must respond, but everyone should STOP persuing her for interviews and begging like a bunch of puppies! If she wasn't to hide, let her hide! The dirt in her past will continue to be out there; Barack & Joe will continue to still be in the news every day, and McNuts will be doing something...who knows what, but little old Sarah will have disappeared! THAT'S what I meant by out of sight. If she doesn't feel compelled to defend herself against the dirt, I think that's a good thing for us!

I highly doubt they will do anything that helps us without us tricking them into it- but I hope you are right

because the McNuts campaign is blaming THEM for everything! They're claiming sexism toward poor little Sarah, treating Obama with kid gloves while being hard on McNuts & Sarah, just generally being biased! I know Matthews was pissed about it and he wasn't the only one I heard anger from. Then of course there's that little point that they really think it's THEIR JOB to get info on this new candidate that nobody knows, and this time I agree with them! I think the media is also still feeling the sting of being out scooped on the Edwards story by the Nat'l Enquirer! Since the NE was one of the 1st to be digging around in AK, I their they feel the challenge of at least trying to get the story (if there is one) before they get scooped AGAIN!

I honestly don't think I'm being naive on this. I guess we'll see.

...and they continue to give the GOP the full benefit of the doubt at almost every turn...

I've seen better scripted rivalries on Reality TV than this "pissed media vs. the GOP" thingy...


I also hope that the GOP/media will attack the GOP/media.

My God, how do any of you move at all, if there are traps everywhere you step?

I've seen it time and time again ofr 8 straight years.

Search your memory and you will recall this pattern everytime DEM voters and activists start demanding that the leaders put up a fight of some kind.

"We cant make DEMS say they oppose the invasion- if we do that- we will lose in 2002 & 2004..."

"We cant even MENTION or suggest that Bush may have committed impeachable offenses- it's trap!"

"Filibuster Alito- no!!!!!!!!!!- the lady will cry- TRAP!"

"Call Bush a liar- NOOOOOOO- that will hurt us- stop trying to make the DEMS fight! TRAP!!!!"

"Dont respnd to the Swiftboat vets- that would be falling into their trap"

Same old same old.

Hey lets just do nothing, roll over and die like democrats normally do

you give them FAR too much credit.

Everyone has put all their stock in this women, and we are going to have video for a long time of a lot of high ranking Republican party officials supporting this women when she crashes.

Sorry, but it's not a "falling for a trap" to demand that a VP candidate answers questions.

That's just being a responsible voter.

You want us to play politics and let her skate so we don't 'look bad', possibly aiding in endangering this country by putting a SCARILY unqualified candidate a JohnMcCainHeartbeat away from the presidency? Fuck that.

Country first! :D

You see, we nominate him and he gets elected all presidential and stuff, and then we have eight years of peace and prosperity.

What an 'effing bummer THAT would be.

P.S. This post is a trap. You are officially pwned.

youth group, the part where she pointed to some kid named Ben in the audience and said (paraphrasing), "People will be interested in Jesus because of you, because of how you look--Red-headed Sasquatch for Jesus! Times change, and people's looks change too." And I thought--WTF? Just bizarre. When are we going to see that odd type of performance in the MSM?

this post! You just FELL for my TRAP! Now KARL ROVE is HACKING INTO your COMPUTER!

wtf is this

Have you ever noticed this- whenever DEM activists start demanding a fight, we get an exhaustive list of excuses for why it cant be done.

I could list 8 years worth of examples, but I'm sure you could too...

are rare. Usually, the attack works as planned. Even when people think it's unfair or negative, it usually works.

not literally, rollin eyes, lol) if they approached life in this manner. ggggeeeeesh.

I also believe they'll give her tons of stuff to memorize before debating Biden.
Set phrases for different categories of debate.
Set sarcastic lines against experts "who just didn't keep us safe" to undercut his vast experience.

All kinds of replies will be memorized. Ready for various occasions. If you push too hard for more then you're a bully.

We need to set up the "conventional wisdom" that she is craming for this, and that she is not ready to answer questions RIGHT NOW.

DEM surrogate:

"Of course she will be prepared with some canned answers in a few weeks- the question is, why does she refuse to answer questions on her feet RIGHT NOW?"

And the consolidated corporate media have been so soft on John Sidney McCain, humble servant with seven homes, that they may continue and tread lightly with her, just doing celeb style interviewing.

We'd hope they'd ask her about saying the Iraq war is an act of God, but they may not.

People will hear her say, "I believe we must help keep Georgia and the Ukraine FREE as democracies, unlike my opponent, who wants to back down and let Russia take control of the oil and wreck democracy" blah blah blah. That's all she has to do--just adopt McCrazy's own talking points and rehash them, and learn to dodge and evade when she's in too-deep water. The Morans of the world will be satisfied that she's up to speed.

knowledge? Guess they're giving her crash courses on how to answer before the unveiling at the debates.

One thing, though-- the media DON'T like to be put off. If they can't get a story, they'll find one. :evilgrin:

And guess what- we lost twice in a row- even after he gave fewer press conferences than anyone and was the most secretive prez in history.

If this is a game of lower expectations- then NOW is the time to actually call them out on their game...

I did a few errands this morning

went to the post office--the fat, hairy mouth breather that waited on me was yipping about how much she loved Sarah--

went to the bank -- 2 female employees were talking about Sarah--and they even claimed to like McWar PUKE.

went to eat some fast food--siting in the booth I overheard some man saying--she's our princess Diana

BARF.. the last thing we need is this bitch plastered all over the media getting more attention. no more attention to Sarah Palin.

Ignore the fat slut. Get the focus back on our candidate who is not getting the attention he deserves right now.

I think the DEM should say "Why dont you ask HER about it- oh, that's right, she refuses to answer questions. Until she does, I'll just have to assume she agrees with Bush's failed policies..."

It takes 5 seconds, and doesnt distract from much of anything...


My take:


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brings her up to me--I will throw the book at her.

I'm just saying I don'y want her plastered all over the talk shows getting attention. I want to see her go away--and as quickly as possible.

The media is giving this breeder bimbo far more attention than she deserves already. The last thing we need is for them all to be drooling over her on all the sunday talk shows.

She aint "going away"- we either define her NOW while she is on shakey ground or let the GOP/media define her in a positive light after she crams in a bunch of talking points.

hell I know nothing about running a political campaign--I am an unemployed angry AA male who can't even afford health insurance.

All I have are my instincts--and a huge desire to win this because otherwise I am FUCKED. so this is extremely important to me.

And I am angry--bad as she is picking her is getting him so much attention that it drives me crazy

it's not even a poorly hidden secret.

The thing is not next week or in a month but NOW!

In a month with treats and punishment you can teach a monkey to be an astronaut. I'm in the front of the stick on John W. Bush bandwagon but IF she is prepared to be Vice-President then she OBVIOUSLY must be prepared to face the press day one.

a point there. I just don't want her on tv--it seems all I hear are stupid women drooling over her hair, her glasses everything. If we let her have any opportunity to become a rock star---that will screw us.

send her back to alaska. no more attention for her.

They're not gonna let the media throw hard questions (read questions about her many scandals, or her hard-right political views, or her religion) at her - they just want fluffers.

:puffpiece: :puffpiece: :puffpiece:

That is really all I've been saying.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6948541

The hard part is getting the fascist media to give any airtime to our surrogates when they ask the hard questions...

As far as airtime for our surrogates goes- I see them on TV every single day- so it is not as hard as you say.

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drilling issue, the global warming issue, etc.?

For example:

"John McCain has said that he supports the right of a woman who has been raped to terminate a pregnancy that may result from the rape; you disagree. If you were required to fill in for McCain in the event of an emergency, what approach would you take to this issue?"

"John McCain has said that he supports the right of a woman to terminate a pregnancy if that pregnancy presents a risk that it would cause the mother a serious but non-fatal disability; you disagree. If you were required to fill in for McCain in the event of an emergency, what approach would you take to this issue?"

"John McCain opposes drilling in ANWAR and he agrees that human interaction with the environment have contributed to global warming; you disagree on both issues. Is John McCain simply wrong on these issues or have you changed your mind, and if you were required to fill in for McCain in the event of an emergency, what approach would you take to these issues?"

"John McCain believes in evolution; you disagree, and you want creationism taught in public school science classes. If you were required to fill in for McCain in the event of an emergency, what approach would you take to this issue?"

Particularly the ones that she would grant an interview. Journalists in this country are a far-cry from the educated truth-seekers they used to be.

The true test will be how she does against Biden in the VP debate. And, I'm sorry, but I just don't see how 30 days of foreign policy cramming could ever measure up to 30 years+ of experience. All Biden has to do is tell stories about his various trips and wax intellectual about nuances to various treaties and she's toast. What is she going to do, tell us all what a great deal she got on Bailey's at the Dublin airport duty free?

with her having the questions ahead of time by a tender repug loving journalist - of which there are rotten gardens of - I think you may be onto something.

I think it's a good idea to let people know she is STALLING until she can cram in some talking points or get a favorable reporter to help her out. After all, it's true.

They are simply keeping her from answering tough questions.

Many DEMS are conditioned to come up with a list of 25 excuses in advance for "why we cant do that" everytime "the fringe" wants to see the GOP taken down a notch- as opposed to coming up with actual ways to fight them.
(See opposing the invasion of Iraq, Impeachment investigations, Responding to SBVs, Alito Filibuster, calling Bush a liar, etc,etc,etc,etc)

Of course there is no trap- the idea is to come up with excuses in advance in case the DEMS fail on this front.

"If we do that they will do X to us..."

OR

"If we had done that they would have done X to us..."

an idiot

but it's about emotion

not logic or reason

please read the article from The Nation

Every single time we start exploiting something, people come on here saying "DON'T FALL FOR THE ROVE TRAPPPPP!!!!"

I hate it. No offense.

Why would anyone want this woman to be muzzled? Regardless of which side of the political spectrum you fall, why would any American not want to know what this woman has to say? Why are you afraid of her?

She may try to flirt her way through but I see a woman of negative substance and I wouldn't worry to much.

I think you're completely wrong. They're trying to coach her--make sure her answers on policy questions are consistent w/ McLame's, and her answers about her baby/affair/ethics scandals are perky but evasive. She's clearly not a quick study, and likely a bit of a loose cannon. There's no doubt in my mind that they're afraid of what she'll say until she's been "educated."

Can we just stop with that shit please? She do a good job of reading someone else's speech. Now quit acting like we are falling into some trap with her.

Seriously... Not every single thing that happens in the world, including every word from every news source and every move of anybody who's not on our side is a giant plot to "get" us.

Kelly O'Donnell said it tonight on NBC Nightly News and she never says anything unless its a McCain talking point, except at the convention right after Palin's speech when Kelly tried to fool people into believing Sarah wrote all but two lines of the speech herself.