If McCain/Palin win, will there be a civil war?

What, God forbid, will happen if McCain/Palin actually win (or steal) the election? I shudder at the thought. Would the country be able to stand it? What will the rest of the world think of us if we put McCain/Palin in the White House?

Pick some you like, some you don't like.. but expect them to be gone.

it would be just like the last two times the republicans "won," there would be much wailing and nashing of keyboards, maybe a protest or two, and not much more.

Obama has such a groundswell of support. It would be hard for an awful lot of people to believe that he lost in a fair race.

for an awful lot of people to believe Iraq had anything to do with 9/11?

so many people actually going to see him, so many water cooler talks about him, such a feeling of hope after 8 years of utter crap. I just think there are going to be more people sitting around in shock that he didn't win than there were last time with Kerry.

Lot's of people are losing money around the globe.. and it all ties back to de-regulated US banks. It probably won't come internally.. it will be external bombings of US cities.

There was a riot or two, but did anyone actually do anything aside from stomp their feet and break some windows? Besides, I think people are far more cowed and distracted now than they were then.

I wouldn't call that completely insignificant.

I heard that the blacks destroyed the Oriental grocery stores because those were the only businesses in the black hood.

And to answer your question orestes, the fact is the riots started because of an unfair verdict in a stacked trial of the police. One of the many results of those bad days was in fact a new, federal trial,at which the police saw a tad more justice.
If by 'did any thing really change' you mean did LA become a paradise, with police like helpers, then no. But the riots were in fact a reaction to a verdict that in the end did not stand as the final verdict.
So they got what they sought,indeed. Many changes happened after. Heads rolled, etc. So no it was not the cure, but there were FAR more results and changes than 'stomping their feet'. Cops went to jail.
I saw much during those days, most of it was the fault of the police and other authorities, and it was brought to an end by artists and people. I could tell some stories. Shot people in my apartment, machine guns on the roof. The looting of Frederick's of Hollywood, an event unto itself...
None of that needed to happen. But there were indeed many results.

My daughter's best friend was ORPHANED by those riots. His parents were Mexican-Japanese and were KILLED by those mobs.

And I don't know anyone in L.A., I live a long way from California, and had NO IDEA that happened until she told me. She said that he went off to play one day on his tricycle, away from the Korean hood. He came back and the hood was in flames. He was seven years old. He and my daughter are both 23 years old.

This talented young man (going to an excellent college on a scholarship) has discovered that his first language is Japanese. He remembers some of it.

The woman that I thought was his mother is really his aunt.

:cry:


I thought I was the last person in America who would know anyone affected by those riots.

College-educated men and women will put down their cell phones and attack their beer-guzzling, church-going, NASCAR-watching neighbors.

and the Sun will be blotted out by noxious fumes from the decaying rot of all those who impaled themselves on the sword of battle; fighting evil and tyranny and the designated hitter rule.


Or people will start working on 2010 elections.


One of the two.

Democrats win? If there is a veto proof majority in Congress McCain won't be able to get any of the neo-con agenda through and Congress can undo some of what was done under Shrub's aegis.

A McCain / Palin administration is unacceptable under any circumstances.

War with Iran, Russia, I don't know who else, draft, economic collapse, fascist state concentration camps, civil war.

People 'round here would vent might vents (but only online) to prop up their fragile egos; no doubt blaming their demon-du-jour: Hillary or some other prominent Democrat who doesn't agree 100% with them in every detail.

A handful would protest IRL, to be promptly dismissed by the MSM as lunatics, then forgotten.

Folk in other countries would just sigh.

Pretty much what happened the last two elections.

Chimpy and Darth, evil as they are, are pragmatic survivors, like the old Soviet Politburo. They want to physically survive long enough to enjoy what they have stolen. Neither, again, as evil as they are, would torch the entire planet in a fit of religious insanity. Palin is the product of a belief system, and her "church" is closely allied with, that thinks the Rupture and the Second Dumbing of Rambo Jeebus will be hastened if nuclear war breaks out. Worldwide holocaust is, in their tiny twisted minds, the BEST THING that could ever happen.

The Loot, Exploit and Steal wing of the Repigs has something more on its hands with Rapture Caribou Barbie than they have bargained for. The advancement of the profits of the kleptocracy is not first on the agenda of the Dominionists/Armageddonists. They have exactly the same lunatic mentality that motivates Wahhabist suicide bombers. These people WANT nuclear annihilation so that they will be raptured off to wherever mental defectives of this sort believe they will be raptured off to. The thieving plutocrats will be vaporized just as quickly as everyone else.

Unless the Democratic Congress can save us, the divide could very well grow. If there IS a country as we know it, due to WAR WAR WAR.

And I know I'm not the only one. If McCain wins, then our country is fucking doomed.

Civil disobedience might be the way to go if the divide grows the way I think it would.

Amazingly, though, I don't think I'll have to be setting aside any time to go to jail just yet. I have a pretty damn good feeling about Obama winning this thing. I just do.

Cheers to that! :toast:

...you may well expect it to be your last, as you might find yourself imprisoned for life as an "enemy combatant."

:scared:

Please make it stop.

...and if it happens because of another theft, all hell WILL break loose.

I really can't see people letting it happen anymore. Not with the worsening economy. If it's this bad now, it is only going to get a hell of a lot worse as we head into the fourth quarter.

As for the rest of the world...we've already lost most of its respect so I guess they'll see it as more of the same, meet the new boss same as the old boss.

we will not walk away as easily this time. There are many things Dems can do to make their life very difficult.

...if McCain/Palin win, we will continue on the same downward spiral as in the last eight years. The same economic woes, the same growing stratification into a neo-feudal state, the same evisceration of civil liberties.

Only, this time, they may take us so far down that road, there will be no way to turn back.

:scared:

attending the Los Angeles headquarters opening where they expected 150 but over 1000 showed really fired up. There wasn't enough room in the building so we had to meet at a parking lot. Everyone seemed to sign up to do everything -- our focus is going to be on working Nevada. Anyway, a huge number of people rallied in front of the building urging people to honk their horn for Obama. There were a lot of young people - and the energy was amazing- a level of enthusiasm I've never seen for a political candidate. I think if the repukes steal this election, there is going to be hell to pay.

As an aside when we left my husband drove past the rally and tooted his horn -- and believe it or not, was stopped by a cop and given a ticket for using his horn.

If the McCain-Palin ticket wins and McCain pursues the PNAC neo-cons policies, which it seems he is intent on doing since he has surrounded himself with the very same people who are responsible for this disastrous administration, it is possible that he will attempt to reinstate the draft. I believe that he would offer it as mandatory service with various choices to dampen it unpopularity. If this transpires it could, I venture, lead to massive civil disobedience if they attempt forced inscription. The massive anti-Vietnam demonstrations would pale in comparison to the uprising that this could instigate.

Sorry, but my grandfather was UMWA, met mother Jones, strong union man, etc. I watched the coal miners all their lives sacrifice like hell when times were tough, I watched them take up arms, I watched them mutiny.


Not many people today are willing to sacrifice like the old miners did, not many are willing to lay their lives on the line like they did. We will roar and rage, and ultimatley do nothing. We are good "watch dogs" but piss-poor guard dogs. We don't use our teeth anymore.