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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:40 PM
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Do you think McCain will pick a few more wars for the fun of it?
I noticed he said that when he was younger he picked a few fights for the fun of it.

I don't think McCain has grown up much, judging by his support of the invasion of Iraq, which was an undoubtedly bad move.

I'd say McCain's stances towards both Russia and Iran are troubling. In fact, I think it's safe to say that McCain would start another Cold War with Russia and probably start an outright war with Iran.

Just for the fun of it? I don't know about that, but you can bet they'd be as ill-conceived, unnecessary and horribly prosecuted as the Iraq War and nearly all other foreign policy actions have been for the last 8 years.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:41 PM
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1. I believe he feels the need to win one to make up for Vietnam.
Pathetic, really.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:47 PM
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3. He's of the crew that feel we lost
simply because we left. Or because domestically people turned on it. We weren't beat on the battlefield though, and we weren't beat because we had people protesting, we lost because it was an impossible situation to be in in the first place. Guys like McCain don't seem to grasp that. These "War First, Country Second" types believe the irresponsible use of force is a solution to everything, even at the detriment of your own national interest.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:52 PM
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4. Precisely. Excellent.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:05 PM
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7. It's important to understand that Republican's compartmentalize
their thoughts. That's why they don't see irony at all. Or why they shamelessly flip-flop on something without flinching. To McCain, and his followers, there is no contradiction between say criticizing Obama for being inexperienced, yet hailing and ridiculously puffing up Palin's thin resume. To them, they don't really correlate with each other.

So Iraq and Vietnam and any lessons that could be learned from them, simply don't register with Republicans. They compartmentalize them. Facts mean nothing either. Republicans are more likely to have faith in something, especially if they hear it from a trusted source. So if John McCain says we'll "win" in Iraq, they will believe it on faith without knowing or caring that McCain can't even define "winning." Facts are insignificant if you have faith in something. That's why it's an effective technique to repeat something untrue to Republican audiences, because if it comes from a trusted source and it's said enough times they will have faith in it.

I think McCain has that blind faith himself. He knows, just KNOWS that we could have won in Vietnam if we stayed. The same thing with Iraq. John McCain just KNOWS it. It doesn't matter that in either case nobody really had or has a plan to do so. It's more faith than fact.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:44 PM
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2. Unlikely, since he ain't going to be President n/t
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:56 PM
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6. To paraphrase Jules from Pulp Fiction: "I was just contemplating the Ifs." nt
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 09:06 PM by Wetzelbill
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:53 PM
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5. K&R
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