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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:28 PM
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Palin supposedly 8 months pregnant
At the same time her daughter Bristol had been out of school due to an extreme case of mononucleosis. For more than 4 months.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:29 PM
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1. and . . . .
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:30 PM
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2. Get a copy of US Magazine with the picture of her 7months with one of her older kids
you see them side by side you realize this woman is NOT pregnant
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:36 PM
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5. wish I had the corner on tin-foil hats . . .
I would be wealthy . . .
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:57 PM
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13. I don't know one single mom, and I know a ton, who
doesn't think that her flying back to AK with leaking amniotic fluid, carrying a Down Syndrome baby and at advanced maternal age was reckless and dangerous.

THAT is why I believe this story. She jeopardized that baby's life, her own life, and the lives of everyone on those planes should the pilot have needed to set down for an emergency landing. Additionally, not one of the flight attendants on either plane indicated that she seemed to be in distress.

So. She's either

1. Lying about her water leaking.
2. Lying about being the mom of Trig.
3. Or a reckless asshole who put her baby at risk.


Not a lot of good choices there.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:59 PM
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15. Could it be all three?
:shrug:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:04 PM
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18. I don't understand your post.
If she wasn't pregnant, her water wouldn't have been leaking. :shrug:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:14 AM
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80. ...and therefore she would have been lying about it.
:shrug:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:03 PM
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16. Ack. replied to the wrong place.
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 09:03 PM by Midlodemocrat
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:04 PM
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17. So what conclusion have you reached . . .
You obviously have a complete grasp on her decision.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:06 PM
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21. Don't be so sarcastic. My point is that woman
bragged about engaging in shockingly reckless behavior. NO MOM I know believes her. NOT ONE.

She's not the frontier woman she wants everyone to think she is. She's a liar.

Personally, I think Trig is Bristol's child. 8 months out of school for mono? Puleez. If she were that sick, she needed to be hospitalized.

Additionally, was she homeschooled during that time? No mention of it. So why hasn't the homebound teacher indicated that the child was indeed ill and not pregnant.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:10 PM
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25. as I said,
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:12 PM
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27. I'm going out on a limb and guessing you've never given birth.
This is a huge issue to moms. Her judgment in getting on that plane in the first place makes her suspect. Shit, my husband thinks she's horrid for doing that and he's not a mom.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:14 PM
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29. my husband too. but then he experienced two births where my water broke and water leaked, he KNOWS
no doctor would say walk away from medical care
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:07 PM
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74. Best bud the MD agrees: nobody fears malpractice suits more than OB/GYNS
I really think it was Bristol's baby. BUT why didn't they 'make' Bristol and Levi marry then? Were they ashamed of out of wedlock because of Palin's guvner status?
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:15 PM
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30. I did not say it was not reckless behavior.
But it does not need to lead to all these conspiracy theories.

I have seen Mothers do very strange, and dangerous things.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:17 PM
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35. Did those same mothers tout themselves as essentially
the Mother of the Year because they were Hookey Mums and raising five children while attending to the duties as Governor?

I'm going with no.

County first is a great slogan for Bozo and Bozette. They have never put their children first at any point in either of their pathetic little lives.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:21 PM
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40. granted
that is not the issue.

The OP suggests the baby is not hers. I say that is ridiculous.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:23 PM
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41. But, do you understand why those of us who have given birth
including for me at least, one high risk one due to oligohydramnios and the second high risk one because I was 36 feel that the baby CANNOT be hers? That no mom would take that risk, especially on her FIFTH child?

She claims that her doctor okayed her to fly home. Not gonna happen. Not in a million years. Of course, due to HIPAA, the doctor can't deny what she said, but I'm sure he's plenty steamed because it calls into question HIS judgment.

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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:27 PM
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46. the problem is that everyone wants to interpret her actions in the
context of their own experiences - no facts beyond that.

And that does not cut it.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:31 PM
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48. Not individuals, though. I think the number of moms
who don't find this story fishy would be counted on the fingers of one hand.

It simply doesn't wash. And, she lied about getting clearance from her doctor to fly. The doctor said no such conversation ever took place.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:32 PM
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50. from that you cannot make the leap to her wanting to do away with her own child
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:33 PM
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54. Where did I say that?
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:34 PM
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58. sorry - too many threads
losing track of the conspiracies
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:35 PM
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59. i had 1. she said took her eight hours to deliver (palin waited over 18 for med care)
so it seemed like it was ok. this gal though was in the hospital getting care and attention. so kinda a giggle to make excuses for palin.

also one of the big things beyond infection is stress to the baby. they monitor the baby during this waiting time to make sure it is not under stress.

not to mention the exhaustion to 44 yr old laboring body going from 4 am until care around 11 pm in alaska
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chupacabranation Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:04 PM
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73. I used to think the same way you did
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:21 PM
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39. The plane thing is what bothers me the most too
i have two grown daughters who have children too and my mother, we all think it is weird...none of us know the truth about pregnancies but the plane thing has us all bothered big time.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:26 PM
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43. I feel the same way.
It simply doesn't add up. She's either lying about the plane thing, lying about being the baby's mom, or she consciously jeopardized that baby's life.

Yeah, she's a real stellar human being. What a total POS. :puke:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:59 PM
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70. Yes, but don't you know it isn't the moms or women who count here.
It's the gray-haired old men who are pushing this story on the public. They have never been pregnant so it works for them!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:07 PM
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22. 44 years old mom health risk, special needs child health risk, premature health risk. not ONE mom
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 09:09 PM by seabeyond
walks AWAY from medical care and not have any accessible to her for hours

i am still peeved at that one
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:08 PM
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24. Although I wouldn't put it past her to lie... I'm leaning towards #3.
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 09:15 PM by WePurrsevere
(she strikes me as someone who would take such a reckless chance) She says her doctor approved her flying back? As a mother and an X nurse I have a hard time with that.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:11 PM
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26. There is NO WAY any doctor would approve that.
Risk of malpractice is WAY too high.

She's a liar. And, if she is the mother of that baby, she should be ashamed of herself for endangering his life.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:25 PM
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42. I agree.. IME no competent doctor would. There's way to much risk...
especially with a Down's Syndrome and 1 month premature baby. There is so very much that can go wrong. My first granddaughter was born 1 month premature. She was so tiny and even though she was otherwise thankfully very healthy the nurses and doctor watched her like a hawk for a couple days more then they would have if she had been born on time.

From what I've heard from others, if she lied about the baby being her's there would be those out there that would be a bit more sympathetic towards a mother lying to protect her pregnant teen DD then towards the reckless thoughtless mother her story of Trig's birth is indicative of.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:29 PM
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47. This is what I think happened.
I think they had an adoptive family lined up for Bristol's baby but they backed out when the tests came back that the baby had DS.

So, at that point, they panicked. Knew there wasn't time to find another couple, hence the revelation that she was pregnant at 7 months along.

Which, if I'm right, simply shows us once more how stupid that woman is. There are waiting lists miles long for people who want to adopt a DS baby. I actually thought that everyone knew that.

Anyway, that's what I think.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:16 PM
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34. I don't know whether Palin was pregnant or not and
neither do you. But people are allowed to ask questions. This is a discussion forum after all, and I don't think you need to ridicule someone for asking questions when there are alot of questionable things about her son's birth. When you ridicule someone for asking questions that you don't agree with, you sound like a republican.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:44 PM
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62. Tell me again why this is 'tin foil hat'? Because the republicans say so?
No wonder they've been in power over the last eight years, telling the most outrageous lies. They just have to LIE apparently, and call anyone who points out any discrepancy in their stories 'kooks'.

Congratulations. Hook. Line. Sinker.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:52 PM
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10. Pictures of Bristol. At the convention she suppose to be 5 months pregnant.
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:40 PM
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8. go huskers!
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:45 PM
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9. a win - but a pretty ugly one
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:35 PM
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3. i guess the lady on the left must be 8 months pregnant too
she looks the same as palin
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:41 PM
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61. Lol. That's a good point.
Haven't seen anybody raise that before, but you certainly have an argument there.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:35 PM
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4. What's even more interesting is when you see pictures of her....
less months pregnant than 8 from previous pregnancies, and how she looks like a frikkin' barrel.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:36 PM
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6. She would have been 6 months there, technically.
That photo was taken just about a month before she announced she was 7 mos. pregnant.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:36 PM
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7. 8 Days of this bullshit wasn't enough? Now I starting to think Freepers are intentionally bringing
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 08:37 PM by cryingshame
this shit back up.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:54 PM
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11. and another
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:56 PM
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12. Do we have a date on this one? She's clearly pregnant here.
I heard that it was approximately one week before she gave birth.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:04 PM
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19. Yep. It was right around the birth. Let me find the date...
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 09:05 PM by wlucinda
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:08 PM
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81. The date is everything
That could be Piper in there.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:24 PM
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76. Flight attendants did not recognize Palin being pregnant on flight from Texas.
THIS picture ANYONE would believe she was pregnant.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:08 PM
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23. Unquestionably pregnant here. I think there are some wrong dates
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 09:09 PM by kestrel91316
assigned to pics. This is not a month later than that one up top where she simply ISN'T 7 months along.

OMG, it just occurred to me. Could she have a fake pregnancy belly like actresses use?????
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:12 PM
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28. one month and one week later her body did what all of ours took 4, 5, 6 months
to do. when she announced she didnt show. first week in march. around april 18 she looks like this. it is a miracle
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:27 PM
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44. Her breasts are so much smaller now, even though she's supposedly breastfeeding.
Is that normal?

:shrug:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:32 PM
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52. Could be.
Breasts generally return to a smaller than pregnant size after the initial engorgement has subsided.

However, the breast feeding thing? Induced lactation. Many adoptive moms do it. And, I would wager that Trig is also getting formula from the caregiver, which would make Palin's supply less.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:34 PM
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57. Thanks.
I wasn't really trying to suggest anything there, I was just interested in whether or not that was normal.

Thanks for your reply! :hi:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:32 PM
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53. when i saw her
at the convention in a suit went thru mind, she is not breastfeeding, and really wasnt a conscious thought or me looking for it. you reminded me. but i dont know.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:33 PM
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55. And wearing white blouses, which I found odd, but then I am an
old man or my wives were leaky.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:48 PM
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65. Nah. It's the miracle of foam rubber.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:50 PM
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66. someone put up a place on net. easy enough to buy a harness. n/t
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:57 PM
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14. Why is that woman wearing a crown of candles?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:03 PM
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72. It's Santa Lucia day!
:bounce:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:05 PM
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20. It's physically impossible for her to be 8 months along in that pic.
Now, that pic may not be of that time frame. Are we sure of this?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:15 PM
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31. i think that may be around announcing at 7. she went another month a week or a little more and had
early
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:15 PM
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32. That pic was supposedly taken on Feb. 5. So she would have been 6 months there.
Not 8 months.

I'll let you decide for yourself whether it's possible for her to be 6 mos. pregnant there. ;)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:47 PM
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63. Pretty unlikely, but not impossible.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:54 PM
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67. I thought this post was clever too...
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:15 PM
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33. Enough with this
It doesn't matter, she's got literally dozens of other flaws. Anyway, could the fact that the fetus had Down's Syndrome have affected the development?
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:19 PM
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37. Not to that extreme. That woman is not pregnant in that picture.
Remember, this was #5, allegedly. THe pics of her other pregnancies show a woman with a very good sized pregnant stomach. Usually when one is multiparous, the muscles have already stretched, so you start showing earlier.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:18 PM
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36. I hate to break this up, but this was taken on Super Tuesday. 6 months pregnant...supposedly....
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:19 PM
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38. WOW!!! She's a CAT!!!!!
:rofl:

Sorry.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:31 PM
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49. I resemble that remark (as my beloved Groucho would say)! Don't insult cats!!!
lol!
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:32 PM
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51. No. She's THREE cats!
:rofl:
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peanut Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:27 PM
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45. Timeline on birth doesn't work either
If you've had several children, the fourth and fifth are probably going to come pretty quick. Your cervix has become more efficient in dilating ... that's what makes NO sense in this delivery story: first of all, if your water breaks, the doc wants you to deliver soon, because of threat of infection... Second, if your water breaks, and you've had four kids? This fifth one is probably going to come pretty quick. 13 hours? extremely unlikely to take that long.
Which lends credence to the story that Trig is Bristol's and what mom got word of (really) was that Bristol was about to deliver, and get back to Alaska, so you can play the mom... that's why all the flying back... because that's where the baby was coming. No way to fake a baby that ain't coming in Dallas.


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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:34 PM
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56. In my last, high risk pregnancy, my Dr. broke my water to hasten delivery. Her story is BS!
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 09:35 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:47 PM
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64. I had long deliveries and labors with each of mine, but I have a
friend who went into labor and BARELY got to the hospital. I have another friend who with her fourth went in to pee and out he popped.

You just don't know, therefore, you don't take the chance.

Oh, and welcome to DU!!
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:31 PM
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78. Easier to hide the true mother of the child in your own neck of the woods.
Plus, if Bristol is the true mother of the child it would be difficult to explain the birth of the child in Alaska while giving birth in Texas or Washington.

And why they avoided any of the other medical facilities along the way cause there would had been loose lips.
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:40 PM
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60. To make something out of this story
1) If you are a woman who finds it extremely unlikely, discuss this with your undecided friends. Do not bring it up with people who are locked in and voting R nmw (no matter what).

2) If you are CNN, or NYT or WP, let it go. Let the NE scoop you (again!) on this.

3) If you are a freelancer and you really want to dig around in it, get a scoop and publish a book, be my guest, but don't act like you are doing Obama a favor by doing so.

4) If you want to post this stuff on DU . . . <sigh> well maybe the mods could set up a special Sarah forum?

Meanwhile folks . . . we got issues. And every time we talk about 'em, we go up in polls.
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votetastic Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:55 PM
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68. Interesting myspace captions here:
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:58 PM
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69. I predict this one will be named...Trank.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:00 PM
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71. Why do some people want to shut up about this? It's good stuff
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chupacabranation Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:07 PM
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75. Happy family
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:26 PM
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77. i asked son, tell me the story of this picture. parents... loving their baby
i told him, no.... that is her sister (even though she is the only that holds the baby) and the guy is her boyfriend not related to baby at all.

no he says

huh uh

that is wrong.

it looks like parents with their baby
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:41 PM
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79. Another point
There is no record of a birth at Mat-Su Hospital on April 18th and the doctor is not on the list for either OB/GYN or General Practioner at the hospital (I don't have that link handy but I have the first one)

http://www.our365.com/NewbornPortraits/HospitalDefault.aspx?sid=7973&S=true&SM=ByHospital&BM=4&BY=2008&BD=0
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:09 PM
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82. I still think that baby is her grandson, but apparently no one with any power is working to find
out the truth, so I've let it go.
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