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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:50 AM
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our Founding Fathers were community organizers
using Palin's "scripted" remarks as a measure of fitness to be president then George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison should never have been elected to office

other community organizers:

In 1776 - a group of community organizers signed the Declaration of Independence:

John Adams
Samuel Adams
Josiah Bartlett
Carter Braxton
Charles Carroll
Samuel Chase
Abraham Clark
George Clymer
William Ellery
William Floyd
Benjamin Franklin
Elbridge Gerry
Button Gwinnett
Lyman Hall
John Hancock
Benjamin Harrison
John Hart
Joseph Hewes
Thomas Heyward, Jr.
William Hooper
Stephen Hopkins
Francis Hopkinson
Samuel Huntington
Thomas Jefferson
Francis Lightfoot Lee
Richard Henry Lee
Francis Lewis
Philip Livingston
Thomas Lynch, Jr.
Thomas McKean
Arthur Middleton
Lewis Morris
Robert Morris
John Morton
Thomas Nelson, Jr.
William Paca
Robert Treat Paine
John Penn
George Read
Caesar Rodney
George Ross
Benjamin Rush
Edward Rutledge
Roger Sherman
James Smith
Richard Stockton
Thomas Stone
George Taylor
Matthew Thornton
George Walton
William Whipple
William Williams
James Wilson
John Witherspoon
Oliver Wolcott
George Wythe

Community Organizers of the Constitutional Convention:
John Hancock
Abraham Baldwin
Richard Bassett
Gunning Bedford, Jr.
John Blair
William Blount
David Brearly
Jacob Broom
Pierce Butler
Daniel Carroll
George Clymer
Jonathan Dayton
John Dickinson
William Few
Thomas Fitzsimons
Benjamin Franklin
Nicholas Gilman
Nathaniel Gorham
Alexander Hamilton
Jared Ingersoll
Daniel of St. Thomas Jenifer
William Samuel Johnson
Rufus King
John Langdon
William Livingston
James Madison
James McHenry
Thomas Mifflin
Gouverneur Morris
Robert Morris
William Paterson
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney
Charles Pinckney
George Read
John Rutledge
Roger Sherman
Richard Dobbs Spaight
George Washington (president of the Convention)
Hugh Williamson
James Wilson
William Jackson (Secretary)
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:55 AM
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1. THANK YOU!!!!
I wish I could rec this a hundred times!

Please read my post on this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6970888&mesg_id=6970888">Obama v. Palin on Experience: One Simple Question.

Let us not forget that our second president, John Adams, and many of our Founding Fathers including John Hancock, Paul Revere, and Ben Franklin, were community organizers in a loose organization called The Sons of Liberty.

These community organizers, not unlike Barack Obama led a social movement that led to the formation of the United States.

So for anyone who would like to truly compair Obama's experience organizing a movement that has drafted him one step from the White House, I would ask one simple question:

What movement has Sarah Palin organized?

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:58 AM
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3. you're welcome :)
here's my post on community organizers, in the thread is my LTTE, which I also sent to my senators/reps and Gov. Rendell
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3938685
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:01 AM
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5. most of them owned slaves, too.
sorry just thought I'd point that out.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:17 AM
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7. so it doesn't count? n/t
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:17 AM
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8. True, But not John Adams.
You got to give it to that guy.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:57 AM
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2. AWESOME!!! K&R!!!
Great way to put it!
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:00 AM
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4. I'm cross posting this in GD..n/t
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:15 AM
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6. see also:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3941371

Volunteering 61 Million Strong;
http://www.volunteeringinamerica.gov/press/press_releases.cfm


Washington D.C. – The most comprehensive research on U.S. volunteering ever assembled shows volunteering in America is strong and poised for growth, as momentum for service grows across the sectors and the need for volunteers is heightened by the economic downturn.

Nearly 61 million Americans volunteered in their communities in 2007 giving 8.1 billion hours of service worth more than $158 billion to America’s communities, according to the Volunteering in America report released today by the Corporation for National and Community Service.
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stolivodka Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:18 AM
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9. How sad that less than 10 years after a Republican spoke of a "thousand points of light"
..now it's "HAHA YOU DIDN'T GET PAID SUCKAH!! WOO WOO GO MONEY"

The Republican Party morally bankrupt? More likely than you think!
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:26 AM
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10. So were the Suffragettes who got the vote for women. . . . nt
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:29 AM
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11. my LTTE,
I sent copy to my DEM senators/representatives and also to Gov. Rendell. Feel free to use it yourself and do the same.

I feel like I'm banging my head on the wall with this, judging by the responses to my threads - however - this is an issue that has traction.

the repubs POSTPONED their convention for a day of service, they had backdrops and posters printed up to wave at the freaking cameras, and then Palin spits on community service two days later???? their 'community service' stunt needs to be exposed for what it was - a cheap tawdry political stunt. Have they no shame? Will they exploit anything and everything for political gain?


the letter:

On Wednesday night, Governor Palin stood before the Republican convention and belittled Sen. Obama's work as a community organizer. She is repeating this insult in other appearances and it's being echoed by other Republican campaign surrogates.

Many vital services are provided by community organizations and volunteers. Are we to now believe this work is of no consequence, that it is something to be used only as a political tool? The Republicans postponed their convention, presumably to provide community service – was their intention really to provide “service” or was it just another political opportunity for a photo op?

That Senator McCain, Governor Palin and others in the echo chamber are unable to see their own hypocrisy is mind boggling. They will take full advantage to parade volunteers and community workers on their stage when it suits them, and insult them if when it’s politically advantageous.

Community workers, volunteers from those who work with animal rescue groups to our volunteer fire departments, from the leaders of our Girl and Boy Scout troops to church groups, from homeless shelter workers to the meals-on-wheels volunteers, from the volunteers who adopt a highway to our first responders – these volunteers, these community workers all deserve an apology.

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:34 AM
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12. video
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:20 AM
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13. kicking
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:12 AM
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14. kick
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