If WIllie Brown is "worried about the Democrats" - I am terrified!

......for a long time now.

Clinton supporters are DESPERATE for the democrats to win this election.

has nothing to do with it, he's an out of touch old crank. I think he's wrong and the only proof will be on November 4th. No poll can dissuade this kind of dumbfuckery, only election results will. This has nothing to do with him supporting Hillary IMO.

a pretext for Clinton bashing. That time has long passed.

We (democrats) are all Obama supporters because the democrats have to win this election.
We have a great ticket.

I know you were a big Clinton supporter in the primary and I've seen how you've transitioned to supporting Barack, It's something that probably wasn't easy but it's something that was completely necessary. I respect you and all that you stand for. I'm glad to be on the same side as you.

of a Clinton supporter until about half way through the primary season. There was such a good and solid line-up of good candidates. She earned my respect by the thoroughness of her preparation and depth of her command of detail and policy. That and the sheer gutsy tenacity. As far as on DU is concerned - the unfair vitriol meant that even a mild supporter was very distressed at the ignorance and vehemence.
As for where we are now- I think we have to understand that we are enduring the GOP convention bounce (although why - heaven knows) and the Palin celebrity/novelty time in the sun. I choose to stay optimistic.We have a very strong and interesting ticket and the country is in dire shape and the dems have the solutions,directions and expertise to do something about it. It should be a shoe in for any democrat.But...there you have it. Four more years of the GOP is unimaginable and quite unsupportable.

line.

I'll say it again...you Obama supporters need to let your past "acceptance" be your guide...quite blaming Hill for your own candidates faults. Wrong side? No, Willie is speaking exactly what he feels. You may think we former Hill diehards are drinking all the Obama-aid...we're not. We are voting to save the country and party. True that.

I still do not think Obama has the experience necessary but I don't let that get in the way of voting for him in the GE. Get real, the rest of the nation probably feels the same way. Obama needs to come out and be specific at what he will do, everytime he speaks, this is what he does best if and when he does it.

he was warned not to fly on 9/11, so he is in with them. he's only out for willie and has no credibility whatsoever.

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I wonder if they are doing conference calls again.

We're in a very strong position. McCain's bounce will melt shortly, as they always do, and we'll be back to where we
were with Obama a bit ahead. All of McCain's bounce has been in red states.

Willie's a good guy but he's known to be a verrrrry poor predictor of events. lol He's also friends with Condie.

He has the mindset of elections past...Yes Palin changed things, but people will tire of her malicious, snide egotistical personality very quickly...she is the new terd on the block, once the stench gets overwhelming people will run the other way.

If we listened to Willie Brown,then Hillary would be the nominee, he was wrong about that, he is wrong about this....the Dems don't need to be explaining anything and Obama hit her well this morning, and Biden did well on the stump yesterday

learn to like Barack. We are not asking forgiveness or redemption.

You don't know (beyond ideological and personal preferences) who the stronger nominee would have been. We don't have the election results yet, or the exit polls telling us who would have won a Clinton vs. McCain match-up. Not that there is any point to the conversation. But there is no reason for you to make a blanket statement that those who wanted Hillary to be the nominee should be regarded as having been "wrong."

Steve

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You've got it backwards. It's up to people like YOU, if you want Obama to win, to work to gain the respect of people who had been supporting other candidates -- not by bullying them or insulting them, but by showing them that we all share the same goal -- the defeat of the Rethugs in November.

People who, at this stage, are still not sure that they'd rather vote for the Democratic ticket rather than the McCain/Palin brand deserve to be "insulted": they are either willfully stupid or bitter dead-enders. Period.

Democrat.

In fact, I was SO sure that I never aligned with a particular candidate during the primary -- I knew I would eagerly support any of them.


But it is disturbing to me to see people like you continuing to bully and name-call Hillary's supporters -- your efforts will only backfire on all of us. We should be wooing them, not bullying them.

All the cool bitter dead-enders cherish using them. But no one is bullying any of you, and as for "name-calling" you bitter dead-enders spend half your time complaining about it and the other half hurling personal attacks at fellow DU'ers.

But that's not how it works: I'm not interested in the least in "wooing" you or any other supposed Democrat that it is in your best interest to vote for Obama. The choice is clear, and it is yours to make.

And, what's further, if anyone is so weak-willed and so stupid that they're not going to vote for Obama over McCain because of some perceived "name-calling" on an anonymous message board, well then, I say that person needs some serious help. And an education.

Now, go snivel to someone who cares.

you completely ignored the content of my post. My support of the Democratic candidate has been strong and unvarying.

Most bullies act out of insecurity. So I guess I should feel sorry for you.

so much so that you've lost track of what words actually mean when composed into regular sentences, and, therefore, how to read. Apparently.

Most seeming illiterates act out of frustration that their minds can't grasp the words their eyes are communicating to their upper cortex and frontal lobes. So I guess I should feel sorry for you.

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You should read about "projection." You might learn something.

Hillary's name in nomination--it happens all the time. Obama did it for himself, because it worked to his benefit. And that's fine).

The poster I responded to brought Hillary up by saying that nominating her would have been the wrong thing to do--I disagree and I felt that comment was unneccesary. So I said so. I didn't ask for anyone to reach out to win my vote, I asked that this forum not be used to belittle our fine former first lady, or her supporters, by making a blanket, matter-of-fact statement that Senator Clinton was not worthy of the Democratic nomination or the presidency.

Steve

He is running a great campaign...well-paced, thoughtful.

You can not have both sides acting like fools, so let the other side do it.

He was just counter-acting people who continually choose to take jabs at Senator Clinton.

:hi:

Cougar, mountain lions, all them varmits.

couldn't even win the fucking primary, why would anyone think she would be a better candidate?

And we all know what a great choice Edwards would have been.

Relax. we picked the best man for the job.

indulging in personal attacks. It's a shame it's so often successful.

But no matter, I'm well within the ambit of the guidelines when I say it is my opinion that Hillary would've made a dreadful GE candidate; I'm not interested if you get your feelers hurt when this fact is accurately pointed out; and I'm further not interested in "unifying" with anyone who does not see that voting for Obama over McCain is a no-brainer, and there shouldn't be the slightest hesitation on the part of someone with an IQ above room temperature to do so.

It really is that simple.

but thanks for posting his bullshit again.

Really, this sky is falling crap is getting comical. If it wasn't so annoying.

There are RepubliCONS on board...

to frighten the ones on board who are afraid. I am tired of hearing from these same old people who have worked on the same ole campaigns, using the same old maps,same old strategies, and the same old people.

NOT THIS TIME!

We are going to :dem: :dem: :dem:

he's behaving like the West Coast version of Joe Lieberman.

Fuck 'em.

n/t

He's said these dumb things before. Think he just wants to get on TV more and this is the way to do it.

What does Willie Horton think?

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He's a FOA (Arnie) now.

but also a political genius.

He may be African-American and Democratic, but he acts a lot more like the average G.O.P. pol.

Does anyone from California remember how he became Speaker there in the early '80s? There was a huge feud between two state legislators (current Congressman Howard Berman and someone whose name I think was McCarthy) over who would be the next Speaker. While those two were splitting the Democratic vote, Brown suddenly threw his hat in the ring, cut a deal with the Republicans to get all their votes, and narrowly prevailed with all the Republican votes and a single Democratic vote -- his own. Once in position, he repaid the Republicans by managing the reapportionment process after the 1980 census to give the G.O.P. more "safe" districts, and hence more seats in the California congressional delegation.

Lovely guy. :puke:

so if you're taking your cues from him, you need to give your head a shake.

Assuming you want to, of course.