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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:54 PM
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Wasilla Assembly of God crackpots issue response to criticism of controversial statements.
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 02:20 PM by The Night Owl
Wasilla AoG issues a statement indicating that certain controversial statements made by Sarah Palin and Pastor Ed were misstatements or statements made in jest...

Those who know our church and Pastor Ed know that we often say things in a humorous, tongue in cheek manner. We do realize the danger in that. This is the way in which Pastor Ed made the controversial remark. We do acknowledge in hindsight that it was careless, and we do apologize for that.


http://app.razorplanet.com/acct/40149-8554/tmpl/index.php?s=au&nid=3731&news_id=8216&preview=true

:eyes:

Nice try, assholes but... epic fail.

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:57 PM
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1. But, of course, what the media and rightwing shitbags did to Rev. Wright was entirely without error
:eyes:

Fuck them.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:03 PM
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9. Indeed. See this Youtube video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8twqZpUT2NQ

Make it go viral, people. People actually need to see this with their own eyes!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:59 PM
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2. Yeah RIGHT! Liar
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:00 PM
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3. interesting, as she hasn't been a 'member' since 2002. her new
church, is almost as crazy

Obama can't/won't touch this yet, for obvious reasons, and the media aren't doing very much, either, from what I've seen

amazing, isn't it, the comparison one can make between the coverage of Wright, and that of McCain's pursuit of Hagee/Falwell/Parsley, etal, along with Palin's fundo baggage

seen this, btw?

The Master's Commission, at which Palin spoke:

http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=QkY5K1Sbh0Y

rate it, comment on it, like I did
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:03 PM
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7. oy vey. nt
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:09 PM
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11. The Master's Commission? Creepy. {EOM}
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:01 PM
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4. Sounds to me like the Wasilla Assembly of God owes the city of Wasilla some property taxes.
And I understand the city of Wasilla could use to money, thanks to a recent mayor.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:01 PM
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5. We were only kidding...
Just to document it before they figure out something better than that lame ass excuse...

Since the announcement of Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin as the Vice Presidential nominee for the Republican Party, there has been an intense media scrutiny of her life, and anyone ever connected with her. As we have stated previously, Governor Palin was once an attendee of Wasilla Assembly of God, and recently spoke at the graduation service of our Master’s Commission. Therefore, our church, our Pastor and our teachings have also been closely scrutinized. We would like to make some clarification.

Over 100 sermons a year are preached from our pulpit. It would be impossible to not say something that could be found offensive by some, taken wrong by others, or twisted. We believe the Word of God is perfect and inerrant, but we are not. There are certainly times when our mouths have said things that our hearts do not mean. No one who regularly speaks in public is exempt from that. There have been times where we have said something that was interpreted in a way that we never felt nor believed.
We have been accused of stating that anyone who voted for Senator John Kerry in 2004 would go to hell. We believe that accusation comes from statements that Pastor Ed made in a sermon on October 10th, 2004. The transcript of that statement is as follows:

Okay, now I don’t know about you, I want you to remain standing, because church, we have got to pray about this presidential election coming up. I watched the debate. How many people watched the debate, debate number two? Man, I’ve never felt more grieved in my life. I mean, I’ve, every time I’ve watched the debate, you say, “well, this president here does this, this president this here.” You know it sounds like, sounds like a bunch of people leaving a church. When I was sitting there, I said “God, why do I feel so gut-wrenching??-- because that’s the same spirit when people come into your office.”
(Pause) Come on. It’s easy to find what’s wrong, but it takes a spiritual, developed, mature person to pray in what’s right. Are you with me church? Church, I have never seen a line drawn like I did in presidential ele--, in this debate, number two. I’m telling’ ya-- I’m not going to tell you who to vote for. But if you vote for this particular person, I question your salvation. I’m sorry man. I’m not sayin’ a name, am I?
I’m telling’ ya, if every Christian would vote righteously, it would be a landslide every time. Church, we don’t need laws to change people, we need the gospel. And we got, we got, I’m telling’ ya we gotta pray right now. So why don’t we pray right now church for this presidential election that’s coming up.


We know that it is not man who judges who goes to heaven or hell, but only God the Righteous Judge. Salvation is not based on man’s works, but on the grace of God, through His Son, Jesus Christ. Acts 4.12 tells us that “And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

Those who know our church and Pastor Ed know that we often say things in a humorous, tongue in cheek manner. We do realize the danger in that. This is the way in which Pastor Ed made the controversial remark. We do acknowledge in hindsight that it was careless, and we do apologize for that.

This statement is not written as a defense, but as a clarification. We understand that a few will never choose to believe our heart in this, but we do want to do all we can to bring out the truth.

We would like to reiterate that as a church, it is not appropriate for us to endorse any one candidate over another. As believers, we are reminded in 1 Peter 2.13 that we are to submit to those in authority. 1 Timothy 2.1-2 tells us pray for those in authority. This we will do no matter who is elected. We wish the best to Governor Palin, and Senator McCain, as well as to Senator Obama and Senator Biden.

May God continue to bless America.


Scripture taken from the NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE®, Copyright © 1960,1962,1963,1968,1971,1972,1973,1975,1977,1995 by The Lockman Foundation. Used by permission.

http://app.razorplanet.com/acct/40149-8554/tmpl/index.php?s=au&nid=3731&news_id=8216&preview=true
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:02 PM
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6. So when your own preacher questions your salvation, he does it as a joke? Sorry but NO. nt
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:03 PM
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8. Separation of Church and State
When churches use the pulpit to preach politics, they should not be allowed to claim tax free status. This is an abuse of separation of church and state. I am reminded of the church in NC last election who told the Democrats to go elsewhere to worship. Our country needs to be very careful of electing officials who are religious fanatics. Fascism comes in many disguises.
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ITsec Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:21 PM
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14. Not to stir up a hornet's nest but...
I don't think ANY church should get tax free status. Run it as a friggen business and pay your taxes like the rest of us have to. Even Jesus taught to “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s..."

Just my opinion.
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:39 PM
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15. Right On!
I agree...hornets nest or not.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 04:27 PM
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16. I agree! {EOM}
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:05 PM
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10. Pastor Ed should know that advocating to start Armageddon
and bring the world to an end is not funny hardiharhar. Noone's laughing.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:16 PM
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12. You mean their entire religion is a tongue-in-cheek joke?
It must be a comedy club, not a church.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:12 PM
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13. I once had a Four Square fundie
tell me with a straight face that he thought all homosexuals should be "burned to death."

When called upon it by my brother a couple weeks later, the fundie didn't deny he had said it but said, "I was only joking."

Funny I never picked up that he was joking when he said it.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:35 PM
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17. Typical fundamentalist. {EOM}
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:58 PM
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18. Bullshit nutters...
bullfuckingshit.
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