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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:41 PM
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FWIT: NY Times doing FRONT page story about Palin's baby
Per Sludge, developing.

May be good, may be bad - who knows
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:42 PM
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1. Dupe...
...with no more information than the original thread.
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:42 PM
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2. good because
family is off limits...except for republican exploitation.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:42 PM
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3. when?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:43 PM
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4. Easy
If it's a positive story about Palin, that's good for them, because it's positive.
If it's a negative story about Palin, that's good for them, because it's the evil liberal New York Times.

See how it works? Whatever happens, it's always good for them.

;-)
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:47 PM
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7. Wrong
If it's positive for Palin, it's still on a negative subject in a reputable paper - the NY Times. And it'll be widely read both in print and online... Drudge, other sources, including tabloids which reach more people than the news does. That's negative for them no matter what - having voters reminded of it.

If it's negative for Palin, they're screwn with their base. And everybody else (except racists and operatives).
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:56 PM
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11. Hmmmm. Explain to me again how the recent lobbyist /too friendly relations story
involving McCain in the NYT hurt McCain. I seem to recall after his bogus denial nothing further was pursued. I truly doubt a story in the NYT will EVER hurt a Republican.
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:44 PM
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5. I love your username!! I've seen it often and it always makes me smile.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:15 PM
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15. moi?
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:01 PM
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20. Oui.
:hi:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:16 PM
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21. Thanks !!! My name meant a lot back when it was chosen. I was totally
convinced in Nov 2004 that the "selection" would never stand. We all lived through weeks and weeks where
we we 100% certain the election would be overturned. And Laura really would have to pack her bags and
move out. One of many in a string of dissappointments. That's why I bristle when people say, "Oh,
don't worry - Obama's got it figured out - he'll win, no worried." I am so tired of being dissappointed.
If he doesn't pull this out - I swear I will give up on politics forever.
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:21 PM
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22. I hear what you're saying.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:45 PM
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6. 15 mins ago it said expose'...
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:16 PM
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16. really? interesting.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:51 PM
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8. That's... weird.
Or maybe not. Could be a story about Down Syndrome. How the numbers of Downs babies have dropped precipitously in the last few years, the dilemma of having to decide to abort or not, etc.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:53 PM
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9. Probably about Down Syndrome
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 07:54 PM by Prefer
and what it is like to raise a downs baby.

So far no suggestion that it is a negative story.

Most likely is it to belay the rumors.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:58 PM
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12. I don't suspect they'd touch that without her full participation.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:01 PM
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14. Bobby Kennedy said a Down baby is very vulnerable - more so than an
ordinary fetus if there is any maternal distress such as if the water bag is broken.

The mom-to-be must get to the nearest hospital asap - not travel 7 hours to a rural health clinic.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:56 PM
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10. I smell a preemptive rat.
If I were to take a wild guess, I'd say that they're arming Barbie with the following talking point:

"What do you mean I don't do interviews? Didn't you see that up-close-and personal item on the front page of the New York Times?"

Remember Duers, the New York Times is the paper that knowingly withheld information about the Chimp's illegal spying on Americans (in order to rig the 2004 presidential election).
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:58 PM
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13. And Woodward was just on 60 Minutes.
Man, this is going to get interesting now!
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:22 PM
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17. Any big scoops? I missed it
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:04 AM
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28. Well, for starters, Cheney didn't want Rumsfeld replaced, and the Generals were against the surge.
The US has been spying on Mala ki, the prime minister of Iraq.
The US has been targeting the head people of Al Queda using a super sophisticated spy technology that Woodward said was as big of a leap as the development of the tank in WWI.
And that General Petraus was put in as Commander of Central Command so that he would resist pulling the troops out of Iraq, no matter who was the next President. Petraus doesn't believe in removing the troops and the Bush administration "breathed a sigh of relief" after Petraus was put in at Central Command because his position there is "fire-proof", he can't be canned.

I think those were the big ones.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:24 PM
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18. read the People article on her. She didn't even tell her kids
she was having a Down's kid. WTF is up with that? She didn't want to tell them the bad news. Doesn't being Gov or being VP involve a certain amount of bad news? That's a leader? My ass.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:09 PM
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26. that is pretty fucked up if you ask me
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:27 PM
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19. Here's the scoop
The story will be about how Palin will bring "change" to the campaign trail by having voters kiss her baby instead of her kissing voters' babies.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 03:55 AM
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31. Lol -- just as long as we don't
have to show her babies deference :)
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:00 PM
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23. Check this out....
Is this the NYT expose?? Dallas newspaper just ran with it tonight as an AP story:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3945847&mesg_id=3945847
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:05 PM
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24. The puff piece is out.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/us/politics/08baby.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1220842802-Adc2Pt2i/Wz1XpLafIYR4g

It's bullshit. For one, she never had an obstetrician, as the article insists. Trig was delivered by her family physician. Still it does at least mention the asinine decision to fly back to AK.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 02:03 AM
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30. Not exactly a puff piece.
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 02:05 AM by merh
The caption under the photo:

Gov. Sarah Palin and her family at the Republican convention. She went to extraordinary lengths to ensure that her son Trig’s arrival would not hurt her work.


That's negative - would not hurt her work? How about her work wouldn't hurt her child.

And this admission/explanation:

Most had learned that Ms. Palin was pregnant only a few weeks before. Struggling to accept that her child would be born with Down syndrome and fearful of public criticism of a governor’s pregnancy, Ms. Palin had concealed the news that she was expecting even from her parents and children until her third trimester.


That does not reflect super gov mom in a very good light.

Or this:

Before her son was born, Ms. Palin went to extraordinary lengths to ensure that his arrival would not compromise her work. She hid the pregnancy. She traveled to Texas a month before her due date to give an important speech, delivering it even though her amniotic fluid was leaking. Three days after giving birth, she returned to work.


A cynic could read that as a way for her to do what she could to miscarry.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:08 PM
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25. Talk about kiss-ass, puff pieces
WTF? great, we've lost the NYT now too.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:27 PM
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27. Lost 'em a long time ago.
Stupid pieces about Gore wearing earth tones and other such bullshit clear back in 2000. So-called "news" pieces about the 2000 campaign that contained a hell of a lot of editorializing.

Sorry if you thought that the NYT wasn't part of the Corporate Propaganda Ministry.


The US is way, way far down on the list when it comes to ranking countries re the existence of press freedom.

We are screwn.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:09 AM
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29. It's on the front page though, and that is what we want to focus on at this time- her inexperience.
Everyone said she was "the new rising star" for the GOP, so we'll see how far that meme gets before it falls to earth.
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