Guys - just thought you ought to be aware of this: GOP Voter Registration FRAUD in California

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This was sent to the Progressive Caucus, whose emails I receive. A Democrat in Hanford reports receiving something awfully fishy in the mail.

I got this message from a friend who used to live here in Fresno . Is this RNC voter registration scam going on in other counties? --- Jay



Here is a heads up. Today my wife (a registered Dem) received a Mailer from the RNC with McCain's name on it. Inside was a brief letter identifying her as possibly being unregistered and a bogus registration card to be returned to the RNC. The letter also solicited funds. We checked with other Hanford Democrats and found that they had all received the letter and that local Republicans had NOT.

Now I may be a little paranoid from reading too much Greg Palest and Thomas Frank but this smells like a set up for creating new caging lists of registered Democrats in our area. I plan to report the letter (I kept 2 copies) to the local Obama campaign and the national as well on Monday but I thought I would see if anyone else got this suspicious mailing.


Jim Bartram (In Exile in Hanford CA )
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Gotta hand it to those fuckers - they've sure got balls. Balls enough to try to steal California via vote caging.

I'm not sure what to do with this except put it out there so word can spread.

Remember the words of Mad-Eye Moody from the Harry Potter books (that sarah tried to have banned from the Wasilla Public Library): CONSTANT VIGILANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the last two...

All they need to do is get close enough to steal.

DAMN.

Okay, call me a concern troll or something. I'm frickin' FREAKED.

And somehow we've still gotta play nice...

that their victory by larceny will not look as obvious. If the polls were showing a landslide for Obama all along, then the theft would be very obvious.

I was just looking at a poll, that shows Obama nationally, at 49%, and McAss at like 43%...quite a bit different than the others suggest.

is solidly Democratic.

I'm astounded. Do you know how much fraud they would have to commit, to win in California?

They must really have major vote-stealing operations, to even try.

That's...really disheartening.

Glad you're vigilant and doing something about this.

Obama's people have their own lists...and all we can do is try to counter the evil.

but the 2 and 3 point states are Hi-Stakes battle grounds ei: Ohio and Florida

Yeah, I know, I get spun out on these things too easily, but I've gotta tell ya - as the mother of a daughter who's old enough to get pregnant and a son who's approaching draft age, it's all I can do not to start getting panicky.

Fuck it. Go ahead and flame me. I'm not afraid to admit that I am flat-out TERRIFIED. And as the days go by, I don't see much to relieve me of that opinion. I've been in a bad mood since a week-ago-Friday when mcsame threw sarah palin at us. And NO, I DO NOT have confidence that the American people will know what's truth and what's bullshit. I've seen enough to know how easily they can get rolled, and I've seen it TOO MANY TIMES not to recognize it here. They're already swallowing the bullshit again. You over-estimate the wisdom and discernment of the American electorate. It's like we're going into battle all suited up with lances and chainmail. Meanwhile, they're warming up with Sherman tanks and flame-throwers.

I think there are too many posts here from people saying - "Relax!" "Don't sweat it." "Don't get yer panties in a bunch." "Quit being a concern troll." "He's got it handled." Yeah, I heard that about Gore/Lieberman and I heard it again four years later about Kerry/Edwards. And we weren't gonna get fooled again, were we?

It's VERY VERY upsetting.

I am very, very upset right now.

Like you, I have lost my faith in much of America and the people.

There are too many idiots who stood by George Bush during his crime spree. His approvals are down to 25 now, but it is
only because they have a new vice (McPalin) on which to focus their dysfunction.

I'm very down and incredibly upset.

So upset, that I'm getting our family passports. If they steal it again, our family is outta here.

I'm not going to sit on a messageboard, wringing my hands and hanging hope on someone in Ohio filing
a complaint or some article that talks about how election theft might have happened in New Mexico. Reporters aren't going to
save us. Whistleblowers aren't going to save us. Patrick Fitzgerald was never going to save us.

The only ones who can save this country are the America people--and 50 percent of them are too busy
being dazzled by Sarah Palin's tiara.

:(

I was just saying to my husband that I don't even know what country I'm living in anymore. This sure isn't the America I grew up loving and believing in. I don't know what that flag stands for anymore. When I read him the account in the OP, he said we Dems should be doing the EXACT SAME THING. And I FULLY agree. Whatever they try against us, we ought to be repeating it directly back at them. Taste of their own medicine. See how they like it. But I guess we're stuck in a ditch along the "high road." I think we won't start winning until we start fighting dirty. Game rigged? Then COUNTER-RIG IT, DAMMIT! STOP being a bunch of Mother Teresas and start fighting nasty like you have to fight in this political climate and this day and age, because that's how the game is now played. Any time we fight fair, we get rolled, because they don't, and it gives them an edge. And they've been able to identify all kinds of edges where they can muddy the water. WHY CAN'T WE FUCK WITH THEM BACK, just like they've been fucking with us? Otherwise we're nothing but pushovers. PERENNIALLY LOSING pushovers.

I posted in Post 8 about monica goodling (or maybe it was sarah taylor) inadvertently coughing this up during testimony before the House. Anybody ever hear of charges filed against her, or moving to have her disbarred or prosecuted - or ANYTHING?







I didn't think so. Wouldn't happen unless she were a Democrat.




BTW - mcsame didn't wear a flag pin last Thursday night in St. Paul. Anybody on the Troglodyte side making a stink about it and calling him a traitor?

backfired, so it looks like they are going to try something else. Prick!

I just forwarded this to my brother and said "don't fall for it" -- and he responded

If only Registered Dems got the letter, wouldn't the RNC already know who the Registered Dems are?

So - please explain voter caging to me so I can explain it to him! THANK YOU!

Vote caging is a voter suppression tactic. The term is derived from a direct mail term. In the direct mail industry, when a third party runs a direct mailing campaign on behalf of a client organization, one of the activities undertaken is to compile all of the responses, handle contributions and to deposit received funds into the client's account, and also update the database of names and addresses that were mailed to with the responses or corrected addresses obtained. Since some of the activities were controlled carefully (donations and deposits) and conducted in a manner similar to the activities within a "teller's cage," the process is called "caging" and the end result of the data entry updates and address corrections is called a "caging list." This led to the term "voter caging" for voter registration analysis and challenges conducted via mass mailings.

Caging, as Rep. Chris Cannon (R-UT) "helpfully pointed out, 'is a term of art in mailhouses' – it refers to the place where letters go when they have no address, all batched up in a separate room."<1>

As House Committee on the Judiciary chair John Conyers (D-MI) added, caging "in the context of elections 'is not an issue of the mail at all.' Voter caging, in the context of elections, means blocking voters out – choosing whole lists of voters whose vote will be challenged, chosen by whom and the criteria for challenge enunciated by whom, under this administration, still not fully explained."<2>

How it works

"In 2004, BBC reporter Greg Palast obtained two e-mails -- prepared for the executive director of the Bush campaign in Florida and the campaign's national research director -- that listed '1,886 names and addresses of voters in predominantly black and traditionally Democrat areas' of the Jacksonville, FL Naval Air Station. Palast explains:

"Here's how the scheme worked: The RNC mailed these voters letters in envelopes marked, 'Do not forward', to be returned to the sender. These letters were mailed to servicemen and women, some stationed overseas, to their US home addresses. The letters then returned to the Bush-Cheney campaign as 'undeliverable.'

"The lists of soldiers of 'undeliverable' letters were transmitted from state headquarters, in this case Florida, to the RNC in Washington. The party could then challenge the voters' registration and thereby prevent their absentee ballots being counted." <3>

Behind the "caging scheme"

Tim Griffin, a former Karl Rove protégé, Republican political strategist and top adviser to President George W. Bush, was "formerly research director of the Republican National Committee. The 2004 BBC News report showed that Griffin led a 'caging' scheme<4> to suppress the votes of African-American servicemembers in Florida."<5>

"African-American leaders denounced the caging scheme as 'another 'shameful' Republican effort to keep blacks from voting.'"<6>


This was something I think monica goodling inadvertently admitted during a House Committee hearing.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Vote_caging

I went looking for info, too, but this is great - I'm sending it to my bro now. Thanks again!

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And yes. PANICKED.

For those here who'd sneer and tell me I'm overreacting and to calm down because we're gonna win it, I don't see ANY such guarantee OR ANY reason to be confident, much less complacent at present. If they flame me, they can just bite me too.

I was complacent in 2004.

Kind of an aside -- now, even more than then, I just don't understand how the Reps could get ANY support, much less be competitive in this race. As I said on another thread, one would think people would just take a look at their checking account balances and know the right way to vote. :shrug:

they're not) and that they will try and steal it again with all kinds of tactics. Voter fraud, Voter suppression, Caging, Purging registration rolls, computer glitches for mccain, ect ect ect.

Public Service Announcement to have all voter check their registrations. I think (hope) there is a time frame in which they can no longer purge voters from the rolls. I don't know what the deal is with that. There has got to be people on this. A lot about this is bubbling up.

There is no evidence Sarah Palin tried to ban Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. I don't like her, but we do ourselves a disservice when we spread misinformation. The supposed list of books she tried to ban is a comprehensive list of books different groups have tried to have banned at one time or another.

Sarah Palin was elected mayor of Wasilla in 1996. The first Harry Potter book came out in 1997. The fourth one - that introduces us to Mad Eye Moody was published in 2000. By this time, the librarian in question had already resigned the previous year.

Constant Vigilance, indeed.

Of course, your issue is important, but sharing misinformation distracts from the message.

I realize that.

I wasn't speaking specifically of her trying to ban that particular Harry Potter book.

But as long as she did target Harry Potter books, I figured it was worthwhile to repeat one of the most important warnings in ANY of the series. Applies to Harry Potter and his classmates and allies - of ANY age and ANY book, as much as it applies to us Dems, liberals, progressives, and others who don't want to see the Death Eaters take over completely - in this country, too.

I often repeat those Mad-Eye Moody words, regardless which book or which even partially-relevant metaphor is part of the discussion. They're MOST applicable to our situation now.

some moran just copied a list of the most frequently challenged or banned books from a "Banned Books" website.

As has been pointed out here a brazillion times, a fair number of those books were published AFTER Palin had her little brouhaha with the town librarian.

SHEESH what a crappy mood I'm in. I could kick it with my feet.

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with and that will bring republicans to the polls.

not just in the handful of battleground states. There was massive fraud in Texas designed to pad W.'s vote total in 2004, so that no one would question the election.

Report every single god damned suspicious thing that happens. Does the Obama campaign have a website devoted to detecting and educating voters about GOP fraud? And lawyers on the ground in all 50 states?