Wow... There is a post at my parenting board

This is from the topic about Palin

"Lack of EDUCATION? Just because she only has a bachelor's degree? Offhand, I can recall several of our former presidents and vice presidents in recent years that had only a bachelor's degree -- Al Gore, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, and George H.W. Bush, just to name a few. Al Gore, I believe, attended several different graduate programs, but never finished any of them. In addition, many of our recent presidents had advanced degrees only because they were lawyers -- not necessarily a plus IMO"


"One major belief I have and I don't understand why it isn't more understood: A vote for McCain is so NOT a vote for another Bush term. OMG - he is so liberal he is almost a Democrat (!!) and that is why the Republican base is so energized with Palin. She brings conservatism back to the ticket, even if she is the VP and not the main event. Several years ago, it was widely reported that he was even considering switching tickets!!!! "

" She has her dh to help her. From what I understand she didn't expect special accomidations for being the governor and even sent the chef home (don't have a link to back me up off the top of my head). I do think she's qualified. Moreso than Bill Clinton was. He hailed from ARKANSAS (and I'm not picking on Arkansas, half my family is there) and was *just the governor* too. Arkansas is rather protected if you look at geography Both Bush's were just governors as well (from what I recall). Sarah's not even looking to be president right now"



HOLY CRAP PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE TO TAKE A TEST TO VOTE. Seriously.. It just really ticks me off that the stupid repukes were able to take Palin's weakness (lack of experience) and turn it around and make it her strong point (experience). Remember last election they took Kerry's strong point (military service) and turned it into something awful. I wish they would hit back, they are losing independents who think Sarah really is wonderful... ugh!I guess I should be glad that as democrats we aren't that easily duped and that's why dems don't have to pull this crap. I'm getting off the computer and taking a break and maybe in a few days there will be some dirt on her and I can say Ha I told ya so to them!

is how people praise Palin for having her baby.

Do they think that only GOPers love children? Or that a DEM would automatically abort?

But none of them say anything about how Palin will be doing a job that puts the baby second.

Many women would love to stay home with their children when they are little, but can't afford to.
They have a choice of work or starve.

There's more to being a parent than just giving birth!

To the right wingers, Palin is symbolic of the abortion argument. It stokes GOP turnout.

OMG - he is so liberal he is almost a Democrat (!!)


and comparing the barracuda to Bill Clinton...merely a governor.
EXCUSE ME!!
Wasn't Clinton a Rhodes Scholar..and didn't he have a LAW DEGREE????

that's even scarier

I guess you missed that part. I'm sure being a Rhodes Scholar isn't looked upon kindly either, since it's got nothing to do with the USA being Number One!!

God this country is so fucking stupid.

With education being gutted the way it has been, is it really any surprise these people are serious morons? When you strive to become "average" your goals are a little freaking low IMHO... but that's what we are, a society of "average" and don't you dare try to say otherwise.... then you chant USA...

roads scholar...

And it is up to the Dems to turn that frame right back around and attempt to guide those poor folks with FACTS. And I think they could all need a let's-stay-in-the-present pill and stop talking about Clinton, Gore, Regan, or anyone.

Sarah is not a Teddy Roosevelt Republican, she's an extremist religious neocon, and as it has been said on the board, one sunburn away from being president and having her finger on the button.

There are some who can be reasoned with and shown the truth...but people like that....I don't think so.
And I would like to know just how much government money that person lives off. Who paves her roads, and makes sure her water and drugs are pure...
I just cannot tolerate such sheer and utter stupidity.

:eyes:

I agree with her that the argument that Bush = McCain is not persuasive on its own. Repeating it 1000x won't make it any more so, esp. for people who've seen McCain and Bush have their share of feuds over the years. It needs to be made more specific. I think the way Bill Clinton did it at the convention was perfect- to say the two had their differences, but on the two defining issues- the economy and terrorism, they are in lockstep - and have the wrong ideas for America. When you put it in these terms, you rationally meet people half way (esp. for those who don't seem them as identical), and they're more willing to believe.

If these were independents, I would be worried, but republicans are supposed to be illogical.

because they see two separate people.

Those people need to be asked, "what will be different under McCain than under Bush, when they have the exact same policies and goals for those policies?"

"Really, what do you expect to be different under McCain?".

I've yet to hear anything approaching a coherent response.

The only thing I see different under McCain, is a decline in competence and intellect.

McHoover will wreck America by running it like has everything else he's ever been trusted with...into the ground, just like Bush.

All the reasons McCain was distrusted by the Reich have been fully flip/flopped on. Since 04, he's been on a lockstep march with Bush and plans to expand upon his failed policies.

There is an election thread on a TV show board on which I post, and some of the "reasoning" in it just makes me want to beat my head against the wall. One of the posters is a pro-choice lesbian pagan (or Wiccan, I forget which) who is voting for McCain/Palin because "Obama has promised to give tax breaks to companies that move all their jobs overseas." She's convinced that Obama is going to show up at her house, confiscate her paycheck, and hand out the money to crack bums on the street. As for the abortion issue, she thinks it's "ridiculous" to believe that Roe V. Wade could EVER be overturned. And besides, Sarah Palin is "tough" and "cool," therefore she'd make a great leader.

This ... THIS is the ignorance we're up against.

:argh:

a Jew who voted for Hitler.

But at least her taxes won't get raised! :eyes:

And spent time at the Georgia Institute of Technology.

Just thought I'd point that out.

liberal...

No wonder we're in such a morass.

Pandering and lying and talking from both sides of his mouth at the same time.

Wink, wink....I'm almost a Dem.

That's a bunch of bullshit.

Kind of like an Aphrodides of politics, but not really.

McCain sold his soul to Bush-Cheney. He's nothing but the shell of a man.

Pandering and lying and talking from both sides of his mouth at the same time.

Wink, wink....I'm almost a Dem.

That's a bunch of bullshit.

Kind of like an Aphrodides of politics, but not really.

McCain sold his soul to Bush-Cheney. He's nothing but the shell of a man.

I live in the Bible belt...right in the middle of red-ville here in Kentucky. What I have witnessed in the past week at first made me laugh and is now making me literally sick to my stomach. Sarahcuda is now a local hero. These people didn't know her name last week but this week they are praising her to the heavens. There are homemade signs in their yards proclaiming VOTE FOR SARAH! Ummm, the woman isn't running for president (Thank God). What I have found is that ALL of the people who are praising her name are backward, uneducated mouth breathers who have never even left the county we live in. But the scary part is that these people will vote and so will their friends and their families. As I sit back and watch these people come out of the woodwork again I feel a cold chill go up my back. Could it happen again...I mean really??? What do the republicans have to do to these people before they WAKE THE HELL UP? Take their first born? I just can't believe it. Not to mention that it is dividing our community. People who find out that you are voting for Obama will look at you like a sinner who is bound for hell. Since when did the republican party because Gods party? At a family get together my own father yelled at me in front of the entire family....saying...."HE IS NOT THE MESSIAH". Ummm, when did I ever say he was? And they talk of Obama's rock star status but here comes Cindy (Stepford Wife) McCain out on the stage in a $313000 outfit. Is that not living like a rock star or royalty? The hypocrisy floors me. And even when you present these people will cold hard facts, they snarl and launch into some crap about Bill Clinton. For the first time in my life, I don't feel comfortable in my own community. I actually feel like moving just to get away from all the redneck insanity that surrounds me. One big problem though. I can't sell my house! I can't escape the stupidity! I'm trapped! Help me! And the icing on the cake happened this evening when I logged onto facebook and my best friend of over 20 years is now a supporter of Palin. I might as well jump of a bridge.
Anybody else stuck in a red state and pulling their hair out about these morons?

me on myspace. I live in Ohio which *might* go blue but I'm stuck in republican county. I only know of one couple in my circle of friends and family who are voting for Obama. And if you look at my other post I had someone on myspace who I went to school with send me awful email last night.

I'm just fed up. I feel like we really try to get these dems elected, not because we treat politics like repub/dems are two football teams and we want our team to win. We try so hard because we care so much about this country. Sometimes you feel like giving it and saying screw it, who cares anymore, end up living in a cardboard box.. but then you realize they take you down with them.

I'm about to give up on the dem party until they start to play sneaky like Rove they will never win. They need better political strategist.

Could you send me your myspace info so I can add you as a friend? I tried to send you a private message but it says that I don't have enough posts....

That's pretty damn funny right there.

Yeah, that's part of the problem. According to several news stories he's already "helping" her govern the state of Alaska.