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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:47 AM
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Two questions: Was Palin in public office when she spoke to the AIP and is there a transcript?
If she was in public office, what business did she have addressing a secessionist group anyway? Unless she was there to lecture them on citizenship 101, she should have kept her distance.

Does the governor of Alaska swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States when being sworn into office?
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 09:04 AM
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1. Yes, she was governor.
I haven't seen a transcript, but there are videos on youtube. (and here).
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 09:11 AM
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2. those are good questions
And much should be made of the answers.
Maybe do a Google research to find the time-line, but I believe she was Governor when she addressed the AIP. Her husband was a card-carrying member for years.
I don't know about the pledge a Governor takes when taking office.
There is so much whacky, scary stuff in her background, it seems to me there should be ads highlighting this so the public can see her for what she truly is.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 09:53 AM
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3. From the Alaska Governor's site itself.
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 09:57 AM by woodsprite
"§ 4. Disqualification for Disloyalty

No person who advocates, or who aids or belongs to any party or organization or association which advocates, the overthrow by force or violence of the government of the United States or of the State shall be qualified to hold any public office of trust or profit under this constitution.

§ 5. Oath of Office

All public officers, before entering upon the duties of their offices, shall take and subscribe to the following oath or affirmation: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Alaska, and that I will faithfully discharge my duties as . . . to the best of my ability." The legislature may prescribe further oaths or affirmations.


Edited to add: It's actually from the Lt. Governor's website
http://ltgov.state.ak.us/constitution.php
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 09:56 AM
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4. IMO, this is HUGE. Just huge. And scary. n/t
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:11 AM
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7. good work!
I read where it says overthrow by force or violence but not the intention of succession.
Course to me, their whole thing is about MONEY (as always).
They (AIP) want to be free of any federal regs so they can rape and pillage at will.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:17 AM
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8. Here's a part talking about admitting AK to the Union.
I guess this is the 'vote' the AIP is saying they didn't get to have. Still reading for interpretation, but posting as I find stuff.

§ 13. Consent to Act of Admission

All provisions of the act admitting Alaska to the Union which reserve rights or powers to the United States, as well as those prescribing the terms or conditions of the grants of lands or other property, are consented to fully by the State and its people.

§ 14. Approval of Federal Amendment to Statehood Act Affecting an Interest of the State under that Act

A federal statute or proposed federal statute that affects an interest of this State under the Act admitting Alaska to the Union is ineffective as against the State interest unless approved by a two-thirds vote of each house of the legislature or approved by the people of the State. The legislature may, by a resolution passed by a majority vote of each house, place the question of approval of the federal statute on the ballot for the next general election unless in the resolution placing the question of approval, the legislature requires the question to be placed before the voters at a special election. The approval of the federal statute by the people of the State is not effective unless the federal statute described in the resolution is ratified by a majority of the qualified voters of the State who vote on the question. Unless a summary of the question is provided in the resolution passed by the legislature, the lieutenant governor shall prepare an impartial summary of the question. The lieutenant governor shall present the question to the voters so that a "yes" vote on the question is a vote to approve the federal statute.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 09:57 AM
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5. Few other interesting sections from the Alaska State Constitution.
§ 12. Disclaimer and Agreement

The State of Alaska and its people forever disclaim all right and title in or to any property belonging to the United States or subject to its disposition, and not granted or confirmed to the State or its political subdivisions, by or under the act admitting Alaska to the Union. The State and its people further disclaim all right or title in or to any property, including fishing rights, the right or title to which may be held by or for any Indian, Eskimo, or Aleut, or community thereof, as that right or title is defined in the act of admission. The State and its people agree that, unless otherwise provided by Congress, the property, as described in this section, shall remain subject to the absolute disposition of the United States. They further agree that no taxes will be imposed upon any such property, until otherwise provided by the Congress. This tax exemption shall not apply to property held by individuals in fee without restrictions on alienation.

§ 13. Consent to Act of Admission

All provisions of the act admitting Alaska to the Union which reserve rights or powers to the United States, as well as those prescribing the terms or conditions of the grants of lands or other property, are consented to fully by the State and its people.

Full text at http://ltgov.state.ak.us/constitution.php
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:05 AM
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6. Here's some AIP info, including the Youtube video
Alaska Governor Sarah Palin's Address to the AIP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBHjUiKCtI4&feature=related

Here's one link to the AIP site, althought they said that there was a 'bogus' one up that claimed Sarah was a member, and that this is the real one that denounces Sarah was a member.
http://www.akip.org/
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:54 AM
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9. The AIP site that you provided a link to (thanks for that)
has a letter from their Chairman and her humble apologies and correction to the public re Sarah's membership.
It suggested that they are getting hammered by the press and the curious (which is good).
But WTF is she (Palin)doing addressing them at all? And.....hubby Todd was INDEED a member.
By the way, on the top left of their website it says: "Let them freeze in the dark".
Wonder what that is all about?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:29 AM
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11. Do members of AIP say the pledge of allegiance?
Including the "one nation...indivisible"?

Seems to me they can't since their motto is "Alaska First."

Palin's greeting to the AIP convention or meeting was congratulatory for all of their good work. She's clearly a booster.

This should be an issue that is addressed by the Dems. It should be brought up in the debate.
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:26 PM
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12. Oh yeah..good point.
and an excellent debate question.
By the way, who makes the decisions on what debate questions are asked? Hope they do a little surfing to get the pulse and interest out here!
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:26 AM
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10. I'm more interested in knowing about her hairdo and where she got her glasses
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 11:27 AM by aint_no_life_nowhere
because I'm a dumbed down idiotic product of mass media, the Today Show, Good Morning America, and People magazine. My couch potato fat ass doesn't care about this trivia about her secessionist sympathies. Where's Matt Lauer?
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