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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:34 AM
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CNN Poll: Race dead even.
A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll out Monday afternoon has McCain and Obama tied at 48 percent each among registered voters questioned. Three percent of voters are undecided in the survey, which was conducted Friday through Sunday.

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The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll is one of three new surveys taken mostly over the weekend. The other two are a Gallup Tracking Poll and a Diageo/Hotline survey. When all three are averaged together for a new CNN Poll of Polls, the results have McCain up one point, 47 percent to 46 percent. That’s the first time in the CNN Poll of Polls that McCain has an advantage over Obama.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/08/cnn-poll-race-dead-even/">Political Ticker
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:35 AM
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1. It's not dead even
This is just bullshit propaganda.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:36 AM
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2. I have a hard time believing that every national polling organization
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 11:37 AM by mzmolly
is involved in a propaganda campaign? This will be a close race, we'll have to work hard to win IMHO.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:39 AM
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6. It's all part of the run-up to election theft
and making it a self-fulfilling prophesy.

If you say it often enough, the sheeple might believe it.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:42 AM
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7. So you believe that every polling company and news agency in America is "in on it?"
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:57 AM
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17. Oops...duplicate.
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 12:00 PM by Chan790
n/m
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:59 AM
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20. It's like people have never heard of a campaign bounce.
After your convention is over you typically get a 6-15% jump in your favor which dissipates within two weeks. in 1984, Mondale led Reagan after the DNC. In 2004, Bush had a commanding lead over Kerry. What did these tell us about the final election result? Fuck-all.

What do any of these polls mean?

Do polls this far out usually reflect the result? No. Flipping a coin is as likely to yield correct results based on historical trending.

Do national polls actually mean anything? No...the only piece of data which matters is the EC vote. The national vote has never matched the EC vote, typically the popular vote reflects a closer race than the EC and in the past two elections the winner of the popular vote lost the EC.

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thenam Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:38 AM
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4. Does not matter
McCain clearly has not been able to open any sort of substantial lead following his convention. Once his bounce subsides, he'll be behind again.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:43 AM
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9. I wish that reply were its onw post so I could recommend it.
very encouraging
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:56 AM
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15. Did you see the Gallup poll?
McCain was ahead by 10.

One hell of a post-convention bounce, wouldn't you say?

Caught Chuck Todd on Morning Joe and he politely called it bullshit.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:58 AM
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19. Did he?
Good! I didn't see that. I know that Gallup automatically favors McCain given the "likely voter" category .... perhaps that's why?
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:36 AM
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3. Liars
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:39 AM
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5. I call "Bullshit"
:puke:

The M$M is distorting the truth and making it seem more of a "horse race" than it is.

Check this article out:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/us-election/no-cliffhanger-more-like-an-obama-landslide/2008/07/27/1217097059908.html
The US media stand accused of distorted election coverage, writes Anne Davies in Washington.

Luckily for the Republican nominee John McCain Europeans can't vote in the November US presidential election - just 100 days away. If they could it would be a landslide for the Democratic candidate, Barack Obama.

Nevertheless Senator McCain has reason to be worried - very worried. Last week three leading political scientists declared the US media's presentation of the election as a toss-up as a "myth".
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:42 AM
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8. CNN and MSM is deeply disappointed: That's the ceiling for McStalin
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:45 AM
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10. Whether it is or not...
When we see these things, we need to fight harder.

We also need to make it very clear that Palin is abusive of power, dictatorial, racist and out of touch with the major issues of the continental US. She cannot possibly understand the issues of large cities or immigration. Her only understanding of racial tensions in the US probably comes from TV. I would doubt that the homeless in Alaska tend to survive, so she may not be familiar with that either. Similarly, it is not likely that she understands hurricanes or earthquakes... or smog and serious pollution issues.

I would add that they will probably ONLY send her to small towns.

If this is about "personalities", then we are just as capable of slamming the McCain/Palin team on their own turf as we are on "issues". We just have to decide to do it, and figure out how to do it effectively.

I'd say it's time for a Failin' Palin BOOK to hit the newstands. If I don't see one within the next 2 weeks, I will be HIGHLY disappointed.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:56 AM
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16. Absolutely. Work harder!
:hi:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:46 AM
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11. Bullshit. There is no way that half the voters have been asleep for 8 years.
Foreclosures, job losses, fuel and food prices, health care costs, college costs, pollution, war, consumer confidence in the trash. There is NO way that half of America would believe that McCain could solve it.

I'm never impressed by Gallup polls, nor CNN (corp media), and who the hell is "Diageo/Hotline???

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:55 AM
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14. Conservatives have been given an excuse to vote for "McSame."
They're being told he'll do something different. We know that's BS but apparently some people are buying it?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:47 AM
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12. People need to understand what they are reading.
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 11:47 AM by ProSense
According to this poll (PDF), nothing has changed and Obama got no convention bounce:

September 5-7, 2008
McCain 48%
Obama 48%

August 29-31, 2008
McCain 49%
Obama 48%

August 23-24, 2008
McCain 47%
Obama 47%

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:54 AM
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13. CNN indicated that they have few undecideds in their poll.
Could explain why?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:57 AM
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18. The poll shows nothing has changed since August 23.
No bounce for Obama (McCain gained a point after the Dem Convention). No bounce for McCain (McCain lost a point after the Repub Convention).

The polling is bizarre.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:00 PM
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21. I like the fact that it differs from the ten point McCain bounce
mantra. ;)
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