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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:34 PM
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How to steal 101: Chuck Todd is... the one
The media will help candidates of their choice steal elections

Chuck Todd is a likable guy. Everyone seems to like him, trust his judgment because he's the numbers guy. He sounds believable and so people want to believe him. We believed him when he was saying all of the right things about Obama. And normally reliable media personalities like Chuck Todd will get you to fall in love with them in the early going. He's lulling you to sleep, to trust him, trust everything he has to say. He will convince you that he has all of his facts correct even when we know he doesn't. When he's right more than a few times we listen to him, drool over his brilliance and ad-nauseum his peers will gush over him, calling him trustworthy, on top of things, the best political numbers guy in the business. He analyzes the polls with deft accuracy even when the polls are bullshit. Somehow he makes the polls legitimate even when they are sponsored by none other than the MEDIA!

"But... If Chucky T says it then it must be correct."

STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait one second. Back up. Chuck T was wrong on many polls during the primaries and he covered himself by saying the polls are all over the place. Didn't Chuck Todd say this is a change year, that Obama is the change agent, (fucking with you now) that Obama should be ahead, that Obama doesn't seem to put things away, that Hillary might be able to win this thing (when everyone knew she couldn't), that McCain is gaining because... because... because... Palin, maverick status, and so forth and so on.

If you've been watching you'll have seen Chuck Todd's dissertation on the election go from great for Obama to Great for McCain and watch how many follow him into the abyss.

A number of posts here have championed the Chuck Todd scenarios. They've given Chuckyboy great credit for being a straight up guy.

LESSON ALERT:

When Chucky T tells you that McCain is winning in a change year because people don't know who Obama really is... he is creating "perception", "reasoning", "doubt" based on GE's facts and many fall for it. Election analysis has to be given by someone we trust in order to put networks in a position to help swing an election. That's right... networks swing elections to put their own agenda front and center. They cultivate perception, create doubt about, up-end even the purest of candidate if it means they will lose revenue, power. Usually this perception is given by none other than someone who is deemed trustworthy in the media.

Everyone has started to trust Chuck Todd. Why not... he's the affable guy. Why not the guy who actually looks like the guy next door? People... remember who he works for. He works for the power base of the Republicans. He works for the special interest. He works for those people who want business to continue as usual. Did you see the indicator? His role at MSNBC has greatly expanded. He is the one who can create the doubt about a candidate such as Obama because he is who most people "want" to trust. Do not be fooled.

Creating perception and reasoning is a strategy that worked in 2004. This is how it goes. "Kerry didn't make the case against swift-boaters and that sunk him." Perception worked because the media said so. Create a doubt as a reason for Kerry having lost the election and we shall buy that reason forever... because the media said so. In reality everyone knew the swift-boaters were lying. The media knew that Ohio was the state that would be stolen. The media help to foster the perception of a close election and that created the opening for good sound reasoning. All of these were scenarios so that you would not be surprised.

Chuck Todd is building up to a beautifully coordinated show. He is sewing you doubts about Obama. Creating sound reasoning, filling us with the perception that the presidential race is close even when republican senate and congressional seats will be turned over to the democrats immediately.

You must ask yourself if you are going to allow someone like msnbc and the other media networks to come in and handle you anyway they please or stand up and help change actually occur.

COUNTER ALERT:

Tell the media that WE are not buying their bullshit! Don't tell them to stop reporting news because that is what they do. Don't even boycott. Just make them aware that you are on to them. Just simply tell them that you know they are trying to swing the election, that they are distorting the truth because even though we like negative reporting they see this as a way to lead us. It is important to to convince media organizations that we aren't stupid, that we only want the truth. This will help them understand that media will not be able to continue to lead people like sheep if they can't be trusted.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:37 PM
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1. Email letters@msnbc.com and viewerservices@msnbc.com )
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 01:37 PM by AllieB
Chuck Todd is a right-wing tool.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:38 PM
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2. Exactly!
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:42 PM
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3. I don't trust Chuck Todd, and I've never liked him.
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 02:20 PM by AndyA
He comes across as very "shifty" to me. And he always has, even when he was saying something good about a Democrat.

Basically at MSNBC, you can believe two people: Olbermann and Maddow. And that's it. Matthews is a tool, not sure what kind, but a tool none the less. And frankly, as long as parent GE has any control whatsoever of how/when/where/why the news is reported on MSNBC, that network will always be compromised.

There is no law or obligation for the M$M to report the news accurately, completely, or even honestly. Believe what any of them say at your own peril.

And if Olbermann didn't have such strong ratings, you can be sure he wouldn't have the freedom he has to report the things he reports.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:50 PM
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4. "Matthews is a tool... not sure what kind of tool he is..." I like.
Olbermann has an ally in Maddow but they are outnumbered. Taking Olbermann off of the coverage seemed to have been done to tell the left, don't get so happy... we still pull the strings.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:53 PM
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5. Tweety blows with the wind, but occasionally rises to the occasion
when a RWinger is trying to BS him.
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:53 PM
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6. I always argue with my wife about him
I can't stand him and she thinks he's great. I think he's a smarmy worm.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 02:03 PM
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9. Keep layin' it out to her... when he's wrong enough times she may see what
you are talking about.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:58 PM
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7. He's No Oracle
I don't even think he has a graduate degree in Poli Sci...That being said, he is obviously intimately involved in politics...

He also said that if Nancy Pelosi became Speaker Of The House Bush*'s popularity would move into the fifties...

How did that work out?

I once had a friend make the following observation about sportswriters...They probably don't know much more than the hard core fan... They just can write or express themselves better...

Apply it to politics and you have Chuck Todd...

As much I was dislike much of what Chris Matthews says he seems to have a decent feel and common sense knowledge of the electorate...
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 02:01 PM
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8. Some companies hire well dressed bums. Scumbags come packaged many different ways
You're right Todd maybe just a great pretender but he's gone far because of it.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 02:16 PM
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10. I'm Not Saying He's A Bad Guy Or Intentionally Misleading...
I am saying that there are posters on this site who understand politics as well as he does though some of them let their heart trump their head...
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