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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:37 PM
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Chris Matthews, Community Organizer = Al Sharpton

I am watching Hardball,
and twice Chris Matthews suggested the Repukes are throwing the word Community Organizer out there, hoping rural America will not know what it means and think Al Sharpton.


Nobody was thinking about Al Sharpton, the read I have gotten on it is
Jesus, Martin Luther King, more proof that The Repukes are out of touch

but Good ole Chris goes to Al Sharpton Camparison. Incrediable
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:40 PM
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1. They were hoping for "Black Panther" "Nation of Islam"
Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton --

They really have that racial code down to a fine art.

Don't kid yourself - in no way was the right hoping people would think "Jesus".
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:00 PM
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16. Ha ha I didn't mean Repugs would think "Jesus" but
Mathews is throwing out Al Sharpton and no other explanation and he admits Rural America doesn't know what an Organiser is or Does.

And I Sharpton to be an embrassassment. He hit the national scene with the Twana Brawaly Mess
I have never reguarded him as being a positive IMO
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:02 PM
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many AA's
do not consider the Rev to be an embarrassment, so we would differ on this point.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:06 PM
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20. They're not talking to African Americans - they're blowing the dog whistle at the frightened bigots
in their base.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:09 PM
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24. Exactly
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:09 PM
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23. I am an AA
I find him to be embarrassing, and Chris using his name and no other he never offered another view
a counter name Like Susan B Anthony or, Hell Martin Luther King
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:16 PM
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29. well I don't find him
embarrassing. I don't always agree with everything he does, but he cares about the community. I know he has made some mistakes, but haven't we all? and don't you believe in redemption?
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:44 PM
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39. It's not me that I am concern about, it's who he is hoping to reach
by painting only the Al Sharpton Image. You are right Al has done some great things for his "black" community and I feel like that is the message Matthews was re-enforcing by not offering people another person or image to visualize.

He made himself part of the Repug plan to paint Obama as the scary black guy. He talked about their "code" speak, while at the same time throwing out a few "codes" of his own
you know smile in your face and shake your hand, while with the other hand he is stabbing you in the back
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:50 PM
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42. yeah--I know what
you are talking about. I just don't really understand why so many white peeps have such a negative idea of Rev. Sharpton. Sure, he was mislead on that Brawley thing--but he has done so many great things. And not just for AA's. He cares about the oppressed. I would think that for most people--if they think of the Rev--they should logically have a positive impression.

But maybe I am the one who is out there....
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:17 PM
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30. I'm white, I love Al Sharpton
Tawana Brawley was eons ago. In the scheme of things, it was much less important than the Keating 5 or Abramoff or Enron or the other Repub scandals. Sharpton gets a bad rap. He's okay. At least he's no worse advocating for his constituency group than Pat Robertson is in advocating for his.
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:18 PM
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32. thank you.
I think even his detractors have to concede that he fights and he fights hard for what he believes in.
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jcla Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:02 PM
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17. Ayeh.
From and old Yankee who has many "community activists" in her family and tree, too!

That "9-11 Ghoul" started it the rest continued it and now McShame is lamely saying "sorry". Send that "10%" Maverick out to pasture.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:43 PM
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2. That whole discussion was ridiculous

It's bad for the democrats that Palin dissed community organizers? How utterly stupid.
Maybe it's a good thing Matthews is forced leave from the anchor seat.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:19 PM
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33. Tweety, needs to be demoted I don't like the why he pretends
to play the middle, then does little sneaky shit like this
at least with KO, and Hannity you clearly know where you stand

Dear Lord forgive me for putting KO in the same Sentence with Hannity
amen
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:46 PM
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3. Tweety is a putz and a *ick!
He is reading a script to collect his blood money at the end of the month. Don't kid yourself, Tweety is no friend of ours!
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:46 PM
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4. WTF is wrong
with Reverand Sharpton? He is a great man.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:47 PM
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5. I don't care for that at all
Al Sharpton is far more than a Community Organizer.
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:48 PM
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6. I agree with you 100%
Sharpton has been looking out for AA community for a long time. I trust him.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:49 PM
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7. Chris Matthews was dead on
He is absolutely right that the Republicans know that to many white folks, "community organizer" means black activist. They are blowing the dog whistle big time and Matthews nailed them on it.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:49 PM
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8. Maybe I misinterpreted what Matthews said, but what I got out of it
is that Matthews was stating that to the Republican insiders, it was code for African American activities. To me, Matthews was condemning the way the term was being twisted by the right wing, hoping that rural Americans think it means some kind of black activism instead of what it really means.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:50 PM
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9. Exactly!
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:50 PM
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10. Dupe
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 04:50 PM by EffieBlack
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:56 PM
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13. But he is not Offering another spin, he is not explaining what an Organizer does
Who some of the great Organizer of our time are. In order to stop it. He just keeps repeating Al Sharpton, and then admits Rural America doesn't know what that is.

It's ugly and divisive.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:57 PM
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15. That's exactly how I heard it. And later, Matthews said:
"It might be a smart strategy. But I don't like it."
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:12 PM
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26. That's how I interpreted it too and Chris said as much.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:14 PM
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27. Chris was Hot. Good to see him back in his true venue.
Commentator and not reporter.
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Stephist Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:51 PM
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11. So Republicans are counting on enough Americans to be Racist and Stupid.
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 05:00 PM by Stephist
:o NT
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:52 PM
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12. Eyup.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:57 PM
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14. Matthews is cutting the Republicans down by saying this and it is the same thing Thom Hartmann
has been saying for days --- the Republicans will hope that lots of Americans will think that "community organizer" = "riled up black people / militants / Malcolm X." This is a play from the GOP racist handbook.

Tweety is spot on with this.

Thom Hartmann has suggested that the Obama campaign needs to make a series of adds with lots and lots of white community organizers working in rural and urban settings -- yes, include the great work of minorities -- but make certain that a majority of Americans will associate community organizers with people who look like them and will work for them.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:03 PM
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18. But he Never named any White Organizers, only Al Sharpton
We are intelligent we get it, but if is going to use that line of thinking he should have thrown out a name other than Sharpton
he is aiding the repukes by helping Rural America paint that picture of Associated Al Sharpton with Barack

Then again
I am problable the only person still watching MSNBC
:rofl:
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jcla Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:12 PM
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25. guess he doesn't read history....
Let's start with Benjamin Franklin, Sam Adams, Israel Putnam, Paul Revere...
We even have a white one on line at DU.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:20 PM
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34. Because that's who many GOP activists associate with "community organizer" not someone who's white
Matthews has been doing Obama a favor during his entire hour. He's been knocking Palin for her extreme right-wing anti-choice views
and debunking her Bidge To Nowehere lie.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:06 PM
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19. Heard this on some RW radio show last week
Must've just received the latest "talking point" from the McSame campaign. Of course, Sharpton is who they would pick out of the thousands of much better examples (i.e. MLK, JESUS)
:eyes:
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:06 PM
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21. So, this is their version of 'Willie Horton'?
that's pretty much what I thought.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:08 PM
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22. God, and I called and emailed MSNBC defending him last night!?!?!?!
what was I thinking?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:23 PM
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35. The OP is misleading -- please read these descriptions of Chris Matthews' Hardball today...
Just a show segment: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6990410

Read through the whole thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6990019
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:16 PM
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28. Are you daft? Chris Matthews is right
Why do you think the Republicans aren't attacking Obama's state senate career or his admittedly brief U.S. senate career? "Community organizer" can easily be purposefully misinterpreted as "black upriser".

Somebody should tell these scaredy-cat folks that not everybody is as bad as they are (or their ancesters were), and that black people just want to get along in peace.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:18 PM
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31. You're mischaracterizing what Chris Matthews is saying - he's saying the GOP is using it as a code
He been saying all through his hour that the GOP is using "community organizer" as a dog whistle code word for
"urban, different" and he's right.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:37 PM
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37. but the only visual he Offers up was Al Sharpton, he never gave another image
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 05:46 PM by Heather MC
for people to think about.

Well Intelligent people Understand the difference
but the Rural people need some new Images and he only gave them Al Sharpton to Visualize.

but I guess it's ok everyone is boycotting MSNBC right?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:38 PM
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38. Rural People Aren't Watching Hardball
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:44 PM
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40. Why should he? It reinforced his very valid point.
BTW, I am boycotting MSNBC debate/election coverage with David Gregory but that's it.

MSNBC has been very hard-hitting against Palin today and I intend to support that. CNN has been on it, too.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:50 PM
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41. He should because he did bring it to light.
So why not go all the way, and say this person was a community Organizer and this person
and so on.
Why not name 3 people to counter the Visual, since he decided to point it out.
Meanwhile he shut down the Obama guy when he tried to bring up TrooperGate
it's was sneaky
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:56 PM
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43. When you have your own talk show, you can do that. I don't have a problem with what he did or said.
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 06:00 PM by ClarkUSA
He did Obama a favor by revealing the racial coding behind the GOP attack on the "community organizer" label.

No one else on TV dares say it.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:25 PM
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36. The Republicants Want You To Think Of Al Sharpton When Community Organizer Is Mentioned
God bless Chris Matthews for pointing out their little calumny...
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:26 PM
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44. Matthews was spot on.
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:39 PM
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45. He's right
They were trying to establish racist code equating Community Organizer with "Black Militant". As a Community Organizer, Thousand Point of Lighter, Social Service Worker, myself we've gotta keep calling them out on this Racist, demeaning, self serving smear campaign against the PTA, Little League organizers, Rotary Members, Kiwanis Members, Peace Corp Volunteers, Social Workers, Advocates for the Disabled, Fund Raisers,..... You get the drift.
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