"Obama needs to dumb it down"

-Thom Hartman.

I think this is a huge problem. Barack Obama does not understand who he is talking to.

He is talking WAY over the heads of the idiots in this nation. Thom Hartman was even talking about using pictures with these idiots so that maybe ...just maybe they will understand.

This is a huge issue. Barack is a smart man...a very smart man. The IQ gap between Barack and the average American is massive...and is now posing a problem.

The Democrats have always said "we need to inform the people, educate the people, and then the tide will turn." ...Well, I have news for ya, The Dems have been trying to "inform and educate" the masses since Nixon ...and while they were doing their good deed, the situation got 10 times worse , as it turns out...the people can't be shown the truth, just like a monkey can't learn quantum mechanics.

I brought this up before and was slammed for it. Maybe Thom Hartman bringing up the point will generate some rational debate.




On edit. I just heard a clip of Obama saying ..."They just can't make stuff up"

He needs to understand that they CAN make stuff up, they WILL make stuff up ..and the American people WILL believe the lies...and they will win on these lies.

deserve, I guess, but I rejoice at the prospect of a smart man for president who can effectively communicate.

and Blarch. Obama can communicate with all kinds of people..he's gettin' through to me, ain't he?

Please explain.

:shrug:

Rock bottom.

70% believe Saddam was behind 9-11

How many millions STILL believe Obama is a muslim.

We tried to show them the truth ...we failed.

Your talking about how some people, even when the truth is staring them in the face, refuse to say otherwise and still say Obama is a muslim.

That's because they are Hillary nuts. lol... they know Obama isn't muslim, but to them he is still a muslim. Their Hillary nuts. Probably a PUMA interview with the nut.

Your post is an insult to all Hillary supporters who are trying to get Obama elected. I'm very certain that the vast majority of Obama-is-Muslim pushers are right wing nuts, not "Hillary nuts."

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70% think Obama is a mooslim, you know.

Nothing personal.

It can't happen.

Just like the majority of the fools in our nation can't be shown the truth.

...is culturally insensitive and dare I say it, offensive.

Asking that an intelligent male of color "dumb it down" is also "offensive", in my opinion.

Some sort of theme, apparently.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyVNlvzzSFA

"Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence"

"THEY think You're STUPID"... is Obama's mantra.

I like it, I want to stick with it. For him to completely dumb down negates his respect for the American people.

We're often myopic, but I don't think we're dumb.

They like being told that they are too smart to put up with the current bullshit rhetoric. That's what has been helping Obama, not hurting him.

He needs to keep his message SIMPLE so that people can REMEMBER it and REPEAT it to their friends.

I think "simplify" is less offensive sounding than "dumb down", don't you?

For what it's worth, I think similar requests were made of Kerry in '04 (to keep it simple...but we know John! he tried though, sometimes...).

Simply statements repeated stick (as I mentioned in another thread, the Repubs have this down to an art form).

Instead of "You just can't make stuff up...", he should say, "they're making stuff up!" or (dare I even say it?!) the more direct and true: "they're lying to you".

:D

truth or objective reality

rethugs know that

Let's not go too far in out cynicism - people don't like liars.

though rethugs just dismiss it as lib attacks

Obama's team needs to make the messaging tighter.

That's the only dirty that works for Dems. If we were real jackasses we'd put forth a bill in congress for "Page Appreciation Day" or to rename the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport to "Larry Craig International Airport" or something like that. It would be very Republican of us, but it would probably work.

The original of that quote referred to Adlai Stevenson.

When the republicans lie.. call them liars
When there are deceptive... put a spot light on it
Where they are wrong... show how much

We've done enough rope a dope
and enough sparring
lets see some crushing body blows
Come on !
Knock the wind out of these blowhards.

I agree that a visual aid could create a powerful positive association.

He knows how to connect with people...

He just decides when it's the right time / place to do it, rather than talking down to people all the time.

(sorry, haven't been here long enough to start a new thread yet, hope you all see this)

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream4

Suffice it to say, homeboy is both FIRED UP AND ready to go! ;)

And welcome to DU.

If you ever watch Peter Hart focus groups on C-SPAN you know exactly what I mean. These people can't find their ass with both hands.

The challenge facing both parties is to reach out and capture these morons without alienating their base. Republicans do this MUCH better than Democrats. Then again, they have a built-in advantage in this regard.

a rarity today.

...and that is deemed as somehow not "rational"?

:shrug:

and they appear to deify stupidity-this is how/why the chimp was elevated-Rove and Cheney know this.

He's too complicated for simple minds, and he needs to have more of his message in terms that will appeal to the voters who aren't even BOTTLE rocket scientists.

A picture of a monkey to buttress your advice to a Black man running for President.

I don't know how many of us Black folks are on DU but here's a big FUCK YOU from all of us

...exactly how and why this is culturally insensive and inappropriate. But now I'm the one with the problem. :eyes:

if you are that damn sensitive how do you even stick your nose out of your door. There was NOTHING racist about that picture. Sheesh.

...is basically saying you don't understand the context I'm referring to. As such, it's easier for you to create a problem with me, than to admit your personal lack of knowledge on this particular issue.

If you are interested in learning more about the cultural context and hisorical comparison african american men to apes, monkeys, etc do let me know. I'm happy to refer you to some texts and internet links. :)

In the future, I'm more than happy to share information. I'm not ok with people making rude assertions.

"No, I'm not too sensitive. You're an asshole."

:rofl: :hi:

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he's frightened. And when a man of his intelligence is scared, its time for the rest of us mere mortals to listen.

Do you live in a vacuum? Please, edit your post and take out that cartoon.

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And yes, I read the post, and yes, I understand the point you're attempting to make.

That in no way mitigates how offensive that graphic is.

I am asking you a question.

No need to repeat yourself.

It's racially offensive, and others on this thread have already explained why.

:thumbsup:

Well said.

Perhaps you can answer for him. What is offensive about comapring a monkey to the American people ?

I'm not into repeating myself. I feel like you are playing games.

If I was comparing a monkey to Barack.

But since I am clearly comparing the monkey to the American people ...your concern is not noted.

But I want to thank you for playing the race card so recklessly.

And since you didn't, you just stuck that image in there without explanation, explain instead how you think people are supposed to know what you (allegedly) mean?

And WHY did you even feel the need to put a picture (that one particularly) to make your point? Why does it need to be there?

I think you are disingenuous.

Sincere unintentional offense, is usually handled a lot differently than this.

People that mean no harm, don't dig in their heels and start hurling insults at the people that merely "ask for clarification." They clarify. If they meant no harm, they may even apologize....say they had no idea, etc.

If this person didn't know it was ever used in a racist way in the past, why did they immediately start singing the "how dare you call me a racist" blues?

...and the fact that you did so, with a complete disregard for what others have "tried" to share with you is telling.

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he needs to "cut to the chase" and not be so wordy.

ENOUGH!!!!

We need to bring smarts back to our politics... and the MSM needs to bring smarts back to their reporting. HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR LIES! Spread the word!

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