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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:07 AM
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"Chuckie T" makes an interesting point about the state of the race 'post conventions'
From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro

*** A tie ballgame: Major news organizations released three new national polls yesterday, and they all signaled the same thing: After the party conventions and VP picks, this presidential race is pretty much tied. The Washington Post/ABC poll had Obama up one point among registered voters (47%-46%). A CBS survey had McCain ahead by two (46%-44%). And CNN had the race deadlocked at 48%-48%. Tonight, our NBC/WSJ poll -- generally considered the gold standard of national surveys -- comes out at 6:30 pm ET on Nightly News and MSNBC.com. Will it show a similar result? The bad news for Team Obama is that this tied race is occurring in a pro-Democrat political environment, and skittish Democrats -- who haven’t won the White House since 1996 -- are going to wring their hands over any piece of bad news, which is never good for morale. The good news for them: In 2004, John Kerry found himself behind after the GOP convention by a significant margin, and he had to use three strong debate performances just to pull within striking distance. It doesn’t look like that will be the case for Obama and the Democrats this year.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/09/1366015.aspx
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:09 AM
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1. Gold standard of national surveys?
Is he pulling our legs or is this for real? And if so what makes it such?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:14 AM
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2. Since Todd is on NBC/MSNBC
he's promoting his own network as the gold standard... I'm sure Wolf Blitzer will call the CNN poll the Platinum Standard now!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:27 AM
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12. And fauxsn00ze would be the
shit standard no matter what they call it.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:15 AM
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3. What network does he work for... nt.
Gold standard my ass.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:18 AM
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6. Yeah, I like Chuckie T, but this "gold standard" stuff is pretty funny.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:19 AM
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7. He works for NBC
:)
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:15 AM
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Todd's good with numbers, but his political analysis sucks balls.
He needs to stick with being the numbers guy.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:15 AM
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4. Now, we just need four good debates performances
Three from Obama and one from Biden.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:16 AM
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5. how did great debate performances work for kerry? nt
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:20 AM
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8. They made it close, didn't they? Quite likely he would have even
won, had voting in Ohio been legitimate. Before the debates he was way behind.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:21 AM
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9. Kerry won the debates and was ahead going into the weekend when bin Laden helped Bush scare voters
The Bush campaign could not believe the gift the bin Laden had given them. Bin Laden wanted Bush to remain in the White House so that we would stay mired down in Iraq. Bin Laden's "mission was accomplished"-- to get us to invade and continue to occupy a Middle Eastern country.

What a fool George W. Bush has been!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:29 AM
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10. As Todd indicated in 2004
after the conventions, Kerry was down by a significant margin and needed the debates to make it close.

If Obama can use the debates to gain 5-7% like Kerry, he'd be ahead comfortably. Even picking up half that amount - 2.5 - 3.5% would be big.
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trapper914 Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:05 AM
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11. Could someone enlighten me?
How are the polls reaching people who don't have a landline?

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