FUCK YOU, Newsweek! Shame on you for spreading rethug lies and propaganda

http://www.newsweek.com/id/157986

It's hard to tell if this is Newsweek or Rush Limbaugh's weekly newsletter.

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Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn't cut it at all. In fact, she tripled per-pupil funding over just three years.

She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term.

She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She's been registered as a Republican since May 1982.
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Fuck you, Newsweek. Stop trying to defend the indefensible.

are these true or false?

Do we want to spread rumors - I don't think so.

Palin really "tiptoed" around some of these issues, such as the book banning and Alaska Independence Party. While she may not have technically been a member of the AIP, she sure as hell was quite comfy with them, and even addressed their convention just this year.

But if you just look at the title of the article and the first few paragraphs, you'd think that these are all total falsehoods, which they are NOT.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that she would give birth to her own special-needs child a month later, right?

For the record, the information comes from FactCheck.org, not Newsweek. They just stenoed the info. :-)

Rove and gang did and by March (even MUCH sooner than that) I'm sure they were already manipulating things to help fool voters about Palin. It's the same thing they did with George Bush.

Good gawd, I'll bet you're right! :scared:

I had gotten fed up with their Bush love and told them to go screw themselves.

would ban books. when woman wasnt receptive she tried firing, town revolted. the list was debunked

a member said sarah was member of aip then when mccain got story she retracted. her husband is a member. sarah went to the meetings and sent them a good job video

I imagine that if the librarian didn't stand up for the Constitution at the possible cost of her job (KUDOS TO HER!), there would have been a list, but Palin didn't get that far.

There is a nugget of truth in all of the claims. But because people go off half-cocked and don't get all of the facts straight, the parts of the story that aren't right end up becoming the focus - they allow Palin's defenders to point out the inaccuracies, putting her on offense rather than defense.
It is why it is so important that things be checked out carefully -- if you attack someone's credibility with a story that has any holes in it, then your credibility, not their's, can become the issue. It seems obvious, but its something people forget all too often.

Its also why people should not rush to jump on stories that are facially unbelievable and come from dubious sources -- like the ridiculous story about 16 soldiers committing suicide (per an Iranian news service). Even though its only a small minority that bought that story, as the old saying goes...it only takes one rotten apple... The story won't be that most people on liberal websites recognized the story to be bunk; it will be that liberal websites were all aflutter about the story.

could have just as easily been the right, mucking the story.

we didnt say she didnt support special need, we said she did once she had a special need child. would be interesting at start of career to see if she sat in any camp

aip we were givin a statement from a council woman of this org. she took it back......

cause media or nccain didnt vett

i think we do a pretty damn good job sorting thru the lies ect... but gotta start with something

What is wrong with pointing out the truth?

The problem is, finding out about Palin - a relative unknown - so close to the election leaves people scrambling to find out about her. It's no wonder innuendo and rumor will substitute for fact. Had John McSame introduced here earlier in the election cycle rather than trying to score the cheap political one upmanship on Obama's acceptance speech, we wouldn't see quite this frenzy.

Newsweek is quoting factcheck.org - which is nonpartisan and points out Republican lies, too. It would be nice if Newsweek pointed out the lies Palin and the McCain campaign have told - but that would be too much.

No, there are plenty of legit things Palin has done to go after her on, we do a disservice and shoot ourselves in the foot when we spread the false stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if these rumors were started by Republican operatives. This allows them to debunk these things and gives the appearance of validity to their claims of a liberal media unfairly attacking Palin. It also distracts from the real weaknesses in her record. Why should we believe the "liberal media" when they say she was for the bridge before she was against it, they got so much else wrong.

For example, bloggers kept sending out this list of books and claiming these are the ones Palin tried to have banned. That list gets debunked and the whole issue is put to rest. We get distracted from the reality that she gave city officials a loyalty test by asking hypothetical questions. Do we want some one in the White House is so intolerant of dissenting opinion? But we can't ask that question now, because of that dumb fake list. The issue is considered put to rest without us having addressed the REAL issue.

statements.

and some of those were not precisely accurate.

Since the American people apparently have to
do the "vetting" on our OWN.

Which, when you think about it, is what Republicans do. I had several people tell me that rejoicing in those rumors would come back to bite us in the ass, and it has.

Again, I say, lesson learned. Fact check BEFORE you hit 'send'.

I LIKE that these rumors are examined.

It's the impetus for further investigation.

But some people didn't stop to examine them (or suggest that they should be examined). Instead they did, in fact, "run" with them -- disseminating them as far and wide as they could, thinking that they were doing a good thing. Their intentions were solid, but their methods need refinement.

If there are rumors, I want to hear them.

the Left always is critical about--yet,it WAS done--on DU, KOS, ect ect.

emails come back to me fact checked, I have learned my lesson.

and to play offense rather than defense. They can cast doubt on the credibility of the entire story by pointing out the inaccuracies in it. Its a tried and true tactic and one that people should remember when they take a story and run with it without fully investigating.

We have all, me included, been running HARD with snippets of information which are only very partially or not all accurate. It hurts us more than it helps us. Once they have discredited a certain number of the rumors that are flying around about Palin, people are going to start ignoring everything that gets said about her. They are going to think, "Oh, there go those liberals, spreading rumors again!"

THAT is why I have learned my lesson. I am only going to spread TRUTHS.

blame. du sure did yell debunk pretty damn fast and consistently the many times someone put it on this board.

the aip story is what a council woman put out, saying she had the info. then retracted when mccain came out. still dont know the real scoop on that but we do know she particpated adn hubbyu was member

and the special need, we never said she did anything with it except she raised it AFTER she had a special need child

dont give us the blame when we havent earned

talking about how proud he was their former member was now governor.

But now that I screamed that she was a member and it has been debunked, I am going to have a hard time getting the Repukes I was sending emails listening again.

talk to people-get the feel of what they are saying--and this includes meeetings by creationists.

I like to get it 'from the horses mouth" as they say. Nothing wrong with that. And it is hard getting the truth from the Internet lately.

If I was new to politics, I can see myself asking a question like: "Are there any materials a public library will not distribute? Anything that is censored? How do you decide?" There is nothing wrong with that question. That's the way I see what happened. Go after her for not knowing the law of censorship in the US. We look stupid saying she was trying to censor without any further information.

She never was a member of the AIP. The two leaders have said so and there were posts here that the two leaders are the sister and BIL of an active poster here. He did not seem to indicate they were lying. Sarah NEVER listed AIP on her voter registration. Sure, she "spoke" at or two the group a time or two but that was when she was mayor and governor. Do you ppl even know how government works? Sometimes you speak to groups you do not support. For hells sake. They were meeting in her town and they are a political party which does not field its own state wide candidates. She wanted their votes. Go after her hubby. If he says ONE WORD in public he is fair game, just like Michelle was.

By blowing these issues, and others, out of porportion or trying to spread shit that is untrue she will get sympathy for being lied about.

the facts are damning enough. Stick to them. As Newsweek did (it published her lies too).

they are my BIL and Sister.. and I have to tell you that I'm damned sure that they got threatened in some fashion, I have mined gold with these people, partied Hardy, spent tons of money, slept on their couches, killed animals (for food) with them..

My sister (as well as my BIL) DO NOT SAY things that are UNTRUE. This is because their word is their BOND, and is Solid GOLD. They do not have to Defend a LIE, by simply not lying, it all work for them.

I have NEVER seen my sister back down in her whole life. This is what worries me. We aren't on speaking terms, other family stuff (where she refuses to back down :) ) but now I'm scared for them.

I hope it was only McCain's lawyers.. but the original Chairperson of AIP was dragged from his bed in the middle of the night, kidnapped, taken far away and murdered, they did not find his body for over a year.

Things can go wrong quickly in savage conditions like Alaska, where a lot of the time, there are NO witnesses..

Again, neither of them would EVER back down, so something is not kosher here, and NewsWeak is LYING, or Parsing, which is what they'll call Palin and McCain lies :)

see "The Palin Bunch" (The Brady Bunch) - my latest Flash video work at http://www.takebackthemedia.com/thepalinbunch.html

Just curious, cuz she said she only wore Buchanan's pin and attended his event (that miraculously came to her tiny little town by sheer coincidence), to be hospitable... and yet Buchanan said that she was a good foot soldier for his campaign. So, I beg someone to show me PROOF that Palin gave a video greeting to the Democratic Party events, attended Democratic Party events, and wore the campaign button of ALL candidates while she was mayor and governor.

other than signing the bill rather than choosing not to sign.
However, the spin they put on the librarian firing is absolutely ridiculous. They take Palin's word on why the librarian was fired and there is no mention that the public outcry was the reason she was re-instated.
I'm sure any day now they will debunk all the lies and smears in Palin's convention speech. Oh, wait.

Thanks. An intelligent response.

This is EXACTLY why all the people "helping" by taking stories and exaggerating, or not fact checking, or just making up shit will ONLY HURT.

Take the librarian story.
FACT: She asked librarian is she was ok w/ banning books. Later she attempted to fire librarian but backed off due to public pressure.

That is already a F***ING good story. Very damaging. But no. Some dumbass wants to make it bigger. So they add a "list of books she did ban", add statement "she banned these books", "remove part that librarian wasn't fired", etc.

It makes it 10x easier to the media to deflect it.

Faux news even had a piece today on how the left-wing blogosphere is lying. The story isn't even on Palin anymore. The story is on how the left is lying.

Now you may say screw FAUX (I saw it because it is what is on in the breakroom at work), the truth is they are watched by voters. Maybe some moderate Republican or Independent sees that and now discounts everything else said about Palin.

It is almost like some people through stupidity or ego are WORKING AGAINST OBAMA.

How about we fact check shit in the future?

Calm down. Newsweek is correct.

Let's give them credit where credit is due, especially since they are the only magazine which has bothered
to devote their cover story to revealing "The Real Sarah Palin."

see my post. Sadly, it sunk like a rock.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6984244&mesg_id=6984244

When did these new allegations come up?

I know the list wasn't valid, but I thought it was clear she tried to institute some sort of loyalty program, despite what the newsweek article says.