Flame away - But Obama wasn't ready at all for Keith's interview

Maybe he thought - friendly interview - friendly audience?

Keith threw softballs. I think O drew only walks.

Like his question about McCain being better at protecting us again terrorism?

How about, "Yes, this is a common misconception. It is not true. McCain was against inspecting
cargo. He was against giving first responders the necessary equipment - should the worse happen.
Same with troop support. He was against the GI bill. He was against troop pay raises. He was
against providing additional funds for mental health care to returning veterans."

For the life of me - I will never understand why the dems aren't spouting McCain's horrible
record - every single day. Obama's relatively immune since he hasn't been there long - but McCain's been there with a
record of 20+ years. Use it against him - damn it.

He's rusty after the convention.
I think he needs to go right to late night shows or where he's relaxed.

Looks like all he wants to do is go to sleep. Someone get the guy some Starbucks!

anyone crazy - but hell -- hire someone to write some zippy lines for you. Hell, hire the creep that
wrote that Palin speech. Hire Mario Cuomo - the best democratic rhetoric ever....

This IS NOT the time for convoluted introspection!

all over again.

because I love our candidate, but Obama could get a lot more said if he just used fewer words

It didn't work.

:shrug:

He's got the vote of Democrats. He's talking to moderates and independents.

and over again by every single one of our TV surrogates. Keith tried to encourage
that idea during this interview - but it didn't seem to induce any acknowledgement
at all.

"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over" - Joseph Goebbels

Propaganda isn't ok, no matter which party uses it. Must be careful.

If Obama needs a rest, maybe he should take one? Can't exhaust yourself during the final turn if you hope to win the home-stretch.

Keith's wording of the questions were almost guiding Obama on how to answer, but O fell back on the same talking points. He missed some couple of opportunities.

I don't think he was awful by any means, but he could have capitalized on having Olbermann give him the great questions and openings they provided.

That being said, I think he's doing a GREAT job with Bill O. I've just seen the first two clips, and I've been really pleased and impressed. He's not knuckling under to BO, and has given some right-on responses.

to say what he views as a nasty comment about anyone...even his opponents. In a way, I like that about him, but it puts the total onus on his surrogates and US to beat up the opposition! I think Joe will do that pretty well, but to be fair, if you think back to the 2000 & 2004 campaigns, it was rarely if ever Shrub who did any of the dirty work. It was always his surrogates, Cheney, 527's, etc.

I think we're all being too hard on Barack!

I agree..he's not perfect but we expect to be or I should say most expect him to be. I kinda like it that he's not this perfect human specimen.

kind of argument or counterpoint - something, anything.

I guess I missed this totally - but I didn't know until today that there won't be
any Dem 527s? Obama swore them off? Missed this. I have been waiting for the
barrage.

pitbull. I have a feeling that other Dems feel muzzled in terms of speaking out without his approval.

Actually Clark wasn't muzzled because he refused to back down, but he was in a sense cut loose, and I think that sent a pretty clear message to other Democrats.

but that's not really Joe's style either. Joe is more the dagger through your heart, doing it with a smile on his face, and leaning back to wait until you realize what just happened kind of guy!

I've been taking Goji Berry capsules for the last few weeks and really feel a lot more energy. I ran 5 miles today and walked back home and still feel great (in my mid 60's)

like shit. Maybe I'll try the capsules.

Obama is a thinker. Unfortunately, he has a bad habit of meandering around before getting to the point. That kind of thinking is useful for a law professor or one discussing history, but for reaching undecided voters, it is EPIC FAIL.

He'd better wake up and realize he's not running for Mr. Congeniality, or he's going to be a footnote in history instead of history.

Haha, maybe they should hire Bill Maher, Chris Rock, Jon Stewart, or Colbert.

Obama already has the voters who respond to detailed, thoughtful, nuanced answers.

Those are not the remaining undecided voters. Those voters do not think about politics in nuanced ways. They think "what are you going to do about _______?" They want direct answers, power points. They don't want an answer that begins "4.5 billion years ago, the earth was formed ...."

When he's passionate and fired up then he's good. This should be noticed by any "friendly" interviewers in the future. Don't lob him softballs. Be aggressive and confrontational and you'll get a better interview out of him.

big speech. Just stick to that. His "no red state-no blue state-speech" had my lifelong
repuke mother-in-law loving Obama. Wish he's keep that whole theme going longer.

hem and haw when he gets fired up. I guess he figures anyone watching Olberman is his base.

I agree with you. Those interviews with O'Reilly are good effective interviews b/c O'Reilly forced him to tighten up his answers and didn't give him forever to answer the questions.

Maybe once a week or every other week. Maybe he should go on Hannity????

And don't flame me. I'm a big supporter. But I'm telling it like it is.

contrast what he was like with Orally....

Criticism from Faux News viewers would be meaningless obviously, but I hope the campaign takes note of the kinds of things that are being said here.

The energy he brings to his campaign rallies was completely missing from this interview and yesterday's--which is a huge problem when it's one of his best qualities as a campaigner.

Also, he's got a great smile... he should haul it out more often during interviews and not just at the ends. Joe Biden knows how to get in the digs while smiling (like the cat that got at the cream...!)--it's one of the things that makes him so appealing.

Love ya, Barack! Can't wait to see the attack dog we know is lurking under that mellow surface! :loveya:

Olbermann saved that lob for the finale, Cubs vs. White Sox in the World Series. Obama awkwardly said he was worried about the White Sox, because "we've lost our All-Star."

You could sense Keith wasn't thrilled with Obama not remembering the guy's name, Carlos Quentin. Keith paused but didn't say anything.

But it's emblematic of Obama's recent form. He indeed looks tired and without effective sound bites. It's the second time I've noticed it, previously late in the primaries when he knew he had a foundational delegate lead but Hillary kept pushing.

In this case, it seems like Obama spent so much energy on the convention and his speech, and apparently thought it was going to be plenty. It's a danger of nominating a guy who has never faced a tough campaign prior to this year.

If Obama's commercials were more effective I wouldn't worry about his current form.

analysis of what's happening. Bunch a negative tripe.

And this is absolutely brimming with stupidity..

"It's a danger of nominating a guy who has never faced a tough campaign prior to this year."

If what we saw these past few nights will be the Obama in the debates he can chalk it up. There's nothing that cheer leading here or out there in my community will do for him.

He can be right and good and lose if his persona is academic.

when he's in a hostile environment. And STILL maintain a sense of calm. Those interviews are vastly better than any of the Olberman stuff.

I think he may have impressed more "independent" people with his poise there than the "preaching to the choir" folks on Countdown.

Obama will be ready for the debates. Every time somebody thinks he won't rise to the challenge, he does.

NOTE: This is also a good sign for how he will deal with tough negociations. He has the right amount of temperament and persuasion.

:eyes:

Good grief.

This thread blows!!

"GET UP... GO GET EM!" ~ Joe Biden 09/08/2008

Part 1 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luA0AMP51Gc (Surge answer sucked, but the rest good)

Part 2---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhwMRKVeFJw

Part 3----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFKDICn