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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:16 PM
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Paul Begala: The McCain-Palin Lies and the Neil Armstrong Principle
The McCain-Palin Lies and the Neil Armstrong Principle
Paul Begala

If John McCain and Sarah Palin were to say the moon was made of green cheese, we can be certain that Barack Obama and Joe Biden would pounce on it, and point out it's actually made of rock. And you just know the headline in the paper the next day would read: "CANDIDATES CLASH ON LUNAR LANDSCAPE."

Why doesn't somebody call Neil Armstrong? He's been there. Or go to the Smithsonian and open the glass case that contains a piece of the moon. The moon is a rock. That's a fact, Jack.

Facts are indeed stubborn things, but the McCain-Palin lies are more stubborn still.

In the face of demonstrable, provable, incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, McCain and Palin continue to assert that Gov. Palin opposed the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere." They do so in their speeches and ads, and their supporters say so on television until their pants are on fire. McCain and Palin also claim the Alaska governor opposes earmarks -- despite the fact that she's gotten her state so much pork she's at risk for trichinosis.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-begala/the-mccain-palin-lies-and_b_125240.html
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:19 PM
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1. I like the part about "pork."
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:32 PM
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2. I like the part about manfully shining a cow patty lol
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 03:01 AM
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9. Yeah, if I'd been drinking coffee I'd have sprayed my monitor.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:35 PM
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3. Strong close, calling out the media
The real debate is over whether the media will be vigilant watchdogs, sounding the alarm when McCain and Palin lie, or fall back to the role they've played for most of McCain's career: lapdog.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:42 PM
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4. yes it was
Begala is good. I like him.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:50 PM
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5. A big part of the problem is chasing after the last lie while they are manufacturing the next lie.
Don't let the opposition define the debate.

A big part of the problem is chasing after the last lie while the opposition are manufacturing the next lie.

Call them out on it strongly and somewhat sensationally, which is what Obama has been doing lately, but quickly move on.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:41 AM
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6. It is tough to keep up
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 02:03 AM
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7. That's the point. Don't try to keep up. Set the agenda, control the frame.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 02:05 AM
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8. Pork Barrel Palin - sooooiee n/t
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 07:48 AM
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10. I got nothing
:)
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 10:11 AM
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11. Cognitive dissonance = Republican LSD
They get high on cognitive dissonance. Lying and believing contradictions is a way of life for them. They are completely addicted to it because it leads them to what they perceive as religious ecstasy. It gives them a sense of power because they can just make stuff up, then believe what they made up, and then--abbracadabra--what they made up is real! Imagine the power surge they feel!
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 10:14 AM
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12. The penchant for the media to present all news as "conflict" drives me fucking batty.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 10:50 AM
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14. no kidding
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 10:29 AM
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13. Didn't that "trichinosis" line originally come from Phil Gramm?
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 10:30 AM by butlerd
I thought that I read about him saying that exact line in Al Franken's introductory political tome, "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot", when he talks about Gramm's run for the Presidency in 1996. I think that he (Franken) reported that Gramm used to joke about bringing home so much pork that he's started to get trichinosis (or something to that effect). I'm almost certain Begala knowingly referenced that line, which is interesting given how disastrous Phil "Mental Recession" Gramm has been for the McSame campaign so far.
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 10:54 AM
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15. ewww. Clever! -nt
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 11:00 AM
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16. here's the John Roberts clip he is talking about
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 11:31 AM
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17. kick
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