It's unfortunate that stupid people are thinking that Obama's "lipstick" quip was directed at Palin

I have the feeling that these folks aren't Obama voters anyway.

But they do have the potential of poisoning the well.

Suggestions about what to do about these fools, anyone?

At 9:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxfEHt9hfHQ

When Senator Obama referenced a pig, why do you immediately assume he was talking about Governor Palin?

--MAB

They saw that remark and jumped on it. It was just the thing they were looking for to take completely out of context and pull the gender card again.

It does not matter to them or the voter that McCain himself used the very same comment. It does not matter that Palin used Lipstick to distinguish herself as the only difference between her and Cheney. All they hear is the hear and now sexist claims by the McCain/Palin liars.

It has given them the lead away from issues right down that personality path they wanted to go.

that would get the evangelicals all fired up.

It's entertaining in its sheer ludicrousness, I just hope it's not distracting enough to be a fog over the rotten, stinky swamp that is McCain/Palin.

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houses people, provides jobs and health care for people.

exact same thing we accuse the m$m of doing. :banghead:

and also tell them that McCain used the same term w hen referencing Hillary's health-care plan. Did Hillary complain?

And I don't see anything wrong with it as such.

Bill Maher's joke (paraphrased): "Palin said the difference between a hockey mom and a pit-bull is lipstick. Yeah, well another difference is that you can neuter a pit-bull." :rofl: :rofl:

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someone this morning and was able to turn her around simply by copying the article from the paper in Lebanon and copying an article from October 11 (with links!) that showed the context in which both McCain and Obama used the phrase. Basically adopting the attitude that it was much ado about nothing, tempest in a teapot, white noise in a wind tunnel...designed to keep us from talking about the substance of what Obama had to say and that was that we were in for Bush term #3 if McCain gets elected. I think it helped that she saw the stuff in print rather than me simply telling her this information.

people make associations ... there has been so much liptstick talk (pitball in lipstick, bush in lipstick, pig in lipstick). That people are going to understand the lipstick part of the analogy in ways that might invoke Palin is no big deal and it doesn't mean that Obama was making any direct reference to Palin, nor does it mean that these people are "stupid."

Not long ago, someone wrote something nasty about Independents, how they really didn't believe in these Independents, that Independents are all right wing operatives or whatever. As I pointed out then, I am an Independent who supports Obama through donations and volunteering. Why alienate people who aren't against you? Do you think the Obama campaign will reject my vote because I am an independent? The goal really is to pull more people in not drive them away by calling them stupid.

As long as people understand the analogy in a way that is negative to the McCain campaign, why do you care whether they think Palin is part of it? Are you going to tell these people not to vote for Obama because they didn't understand the analogy in some strict way? I thought metaphors were not suppose to be taken "literally."

The McCain campaign will twist and turn anything into being alienating to its base and hopefully to as many independents who aren't really listening. No matter what Obama says, it will be used, so he might as well get the best mileage he can out of the attention. This McCain defensiveness is insanely hypocritical given his use of the same phrase when referring to Hillary's health plan.

Obama isn't alienating anyone. People blatantly misconstruing his intent are doing that.

but I think it is alienating for people on here to call other posters stupid as the OP poster did. Build consensus on voting for Obama instead of trying to micromanage the assoicaitons people make in their thought process.

Then, yes, they are stupid. Are you saying there are people here who believe that Obama directed that comment at Palin?

but I also think if people want to play with the metaphor in a way that is negative to McCain/Palin, that highlights their weaknesses, the weaknesses of their platform, the lack of experience in McCain't VP choice, their hypocrisy, and on and on then that is okay with me.

if you were watching him right now on CNN.

it was brilliant, and of course they're whining. There is no denying their hypocrisy.

They are intentionally trying to disarm the comment by turning it on Obama. Standard Rovian tactics.

Just to clarify

Have a pig that is marked Bush's failed policies/McCain's adopted policies
and have him holding a lipstick tube with Palin representing the lipstick

I wish I could draw

"... I thought your running mate was a pitbull?"

and I don't mean a giggle, I mean a loud, raucous, belly shaking laugh.

If they persisted, I'd show them the clips or the transcripts including the context in which the statement was made. I would be SURE to show them the ones of McSame's also, both the commercial about Hillary's health plan AND him using the expression himself so there could be NO question in their mind that McSame 'wasn't familiar' with the expression and mistook the intent.

If they yet persisted and didn't see the poutrage for what it is still ... I'd laugh at them again. C'mon ... silly is just that ... silly.