Brain overload--HELP!--What's good 5 sec. soundbite comeback for this gnat's question on healthcare?

Here's the set up. This poster in local paper named mypraise2Him writes a comment in response to a Readers viewpoint letter to the paper titled "Republicans can't fool the voters again" and here is mypraise2Him 's comment

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I've asked this question a couple of times before and nobody has attempted to answer it.

TSJ said that we should be talking about health care, so here again is my question.

Where is it written that the United States Government is responsible to provide me with health care coverage?????

I don't want socialized health care!! I'd rather go without any coverage at all than to have to schedule a Dr.'s appointment 6 months in advance, because that's how long it will take to be seen. Imagine waiting in the emergency room to be seen if there is free health care for everyone.

What ever happened to taking care of ourselves? Why do you people need to depend on the government so much?? Maybe if the people of this country weren't so overly medicated, they wouldn't need as much health insurance. Turn on the TV and all you see are ads for this drug and that drug. Maybe the drugs that truly are needed wouldn't cost so much if the drug companies would quit wasting millions of dollars to advertise their product. What ever happened to them sending salesmen to visit the doctor and market his product to the right person.

Wake up people, we DO NOT need socialized health care!!
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Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhh. :crazy:

:loveya:

THE SENATE

#1 "socialized" healthcare and "universal" healthcare are 2 different things. As far as I can tell, no one is proposing socialized healthcare and nothing will be free. The closest it gets is opening the healthcare plan Congress has to everyone and charging them based on what they can afford. A healthy society is a happy and productive society. No healthcare means the idiot who posted that will be subsidizing lots of people who eventually have to file for disability because they are unable to work anymore since their medical conditions have gone untreated. Sorry - it can't be said in 5 seconds.

:thumbsup:

What your employer pays for your insurance will be added to your gross income and taxed.
And socialized? Ask your granny how she likes Medicare...



Works in my office...

Thank you! :loveya: too ~

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

"faithfulness to the Consitution of the United States of America"

:woohoo: THANK YOU!

Can't pursue happiness if you ain't alive, and if you ain't healthy you aren't going to be doing much chasing, either.

If familiar with the phrase it might interest him to know that the term comes from a document he most likely pretends to uphold:

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

That's a "socialized medicine" program that's been working pretty well.

"Free market" approach has not worked well. Annual cost of a decent HMO plan in New England for single coverage through a good size group is $5200.

If you lose your job, COBRA for a single person is $440 per month

Just some thoughts off the top of my head.... If you want to use the cost theme, you might want average costs for your area

prescription drugs is due to the free market approach to health care. Insurance companies also waste billions on advertising and billions on restricting access to health care.

All of those countries where they have "socialized" medicine do not allow drug companies to do any direct marketing to consumers. Looks like their approach to health care over all is the right one.

The United States pays the most for health care per capita of any nation on earth. We rank 37th in the quality of health care we receive. That means 36 counties provide better health care to its citizens at less cost than the US. Our system does not work.

The Constitution does not say the US government is responsible for health care, nor does it say the government is responsible for roads or education. We decide what laws we want. If we write a law that says we want a better health care system, then we will have one, at less cost.

Will he pay the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars when he gets sick or hurt?

It's time to take insurance companies out of driving our healthcare, saying what we can have and who can deliver it,just so they can make their shareholders and CEOs a billion dollars.

Emergency rooms are not free nor cost effective

...not necessarily to provide health coverage, but goddammit, after decades of failure by the insurance companies to cover everyone, it's the government's turn.

Your comeback is to ask how much longer s/he wants tens of millions to be denied health care, and to point out that people with coverage are not entitled to tell those without what they need. If his/her objection is really to a long wait, s/he won't be able to argue for "never."

he is diagnosed with cancer or some other dibilating disease that could be cured/abated with a doctors care!!! :grr:

see your doctor when you want, that is a fallacy.......

... maintaining roads?
... protecting the safety of your food?
... subsidizing farmers?
... bailing out failed corporations?
... allowing private corporations to use public lands?
... "spreading democracy" overseas?
... sending federal aid to an oil rich state like Alaska?

The US Government is responsible for whatever we the people want to make it responsible for. It isn't some kind of naturally existing phenomenon that needs to be kept in a "pure" state. We can make it do whatever we want. And most Americans want better, cheaper access to health care.

You may not need health care but some people do. That's the great thing about our government, it's responsible for whatever we want it to be responsible for. We the people can make it do whatever we want, and most Americans want better, cheaper access to health care. Just keep your existing plan if you're so happy with it. Everybody wins.

Get "socialized" trash disposal, et...

and 7 homes, doesn't need government help for his healthcare. The people who write the stuff about not wanting "socialized medicine" usually are wealthy and have excellent coverage themselves. They don't know the desperation of being unable to pay huge bills for medical services for a family member.

John Sidney McCain III even proposes TAXING our medical benefits!

I don't want to go bankrupt from medical expenses if I have an accident. Most Americans would be glad to have free medical care available like all the other modern countries. People who want fancy care or a private room can pay more. But everyone should get free or very low cost nonprofit healthcare as a right and not a privilege.


One kind of quip back at those rich folks who say the millions of Americans who actually do want nonprofit government run medical care available really do not want it--

>> But somehow you're okay with government run police, fire department, and other services.

or an inconvenient truth:

>> Medicare is far more efficient than private systems. Much lower administrative costs.

You're not going to convince this guy with any specifics or details about health care. He has decided that health care is not an issue for him and there's no way to change that. You're also probably not going to convince him that the federal government has any function beyond the military. So all you can hope to do is show how ridiculous his whole premise is and hopefully make him look like an idiot in front of anyone else who may be reading.

Don't get bogged down in specifics, don't talk about medicare this, public education that... he's probably opposed to all of those things.

They're well taken care of . . . . . also, socialized health insurance . . they can pay what they want or deny what they want and charge what they want, doctors be damned . . . . .

The govt pays for studies on drugs but we get no benefit . . . only those interests that make health care so expensive benefit and it seems about time that the govt started providing something for ordinary people just out of fairness.

So many people work one, two and even three jobs and aren't provided by their employers with health insurance, and buying it privately is too costly for many to afford. Doctors charge a fortune and a good bit of their fee goes to pay 3 to 5 clerical people to work health insurance claims..

Nobody said the govt should provide health care, but where is it written that it can't provide health care?