Joan Walsh declared that Palin is a feminist and she has to give her snaps for that.

* Hardball today

WRONG! This is something I can taste. Palin is my sister. My sister is a successful, highly educated fundie wingnut. Dobson has given her glowing blurbs for her books. This is hugely embarrassing, but I have a lesser degree from what the nutters like to call with a wink Bible College.

These people are not feminists and, in fact, are hostile to women. I know you've all heard the freakshow stories about what they believe on the subject of abortion, not supporting women's services or issues, etc., but they also genuinely believe in the most twisted biblical exegesis I've ever heard that wives are subservient to their husbands.

My sister and I haven't spoken in 10 years. She had been telling me for years what a fuckhead her husband was, that he had a voracious appetite for porn on the sly, etc. and oh all kinds of etc. Then one day his porn tab arrived (oops) of some $1,700, he denied it, but with amusing karmic timing, the bill arrived on the same day my sister went to pick up a prescription and got his Rx Viagra (let's just they as a couple didn't need it). Wow. Like Keith said tonight it was like an explosion in an unmanned fireworks factory. I laughed hysterically, and she was pissed that I had the audacity to assume the porn bill was his. She prayed about it and the Baby Jesus H. Christ reminded her she knew her place, and she stopped speaking to me.

Just another Larry Craig freak sideshow, but I digress.

SARAH PALIN IS NO FEMINIST. So, can someone explain to me why Joan Walsh of Salon asserted without stuttering that she is a feminist? I'd really like to know.

I've got no problem with that ;)

We need to strike an accord and go back to fighting, say Nov 5th.

Palin really struck a nerve with me. These people are dangerous nutjobs.

that they show her in a not-too-great light. There are many articles. She's defended John McCain in the past. There's also an attack on Obama back in June 2008 about reverse discrimination. There's lots and lots. Do various searches on her. You'll see.

well you're a really bad one

She seems like an intelligent woman. Other Clinton supporters like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and Jenny Baukus (ish on the spelling of both) have been really, really wonderful.

I don't understand Walsh. She is so wrong on so many levels. Oy.

She is always "concerned" about Obama. She is always "concerned" that Obama cannot reach white working class voters. She is a concern troll of the highest order.

I just wish she didn't use that SF Full House (Alamo Square Park) background. She does not represent this city, my city!, not by a long shot. She seems fine and every once in a while hits a sour note that just makes me cringe.

Either that or the woman doesn't know what the hell a feminist is.

Regards

and still hasn't gotten over the fact that he is the democratic candidate. It is so obvious from her commentary which tend to be 80% anti-Obama.

I usually turn the volume down when I see her on tweety's show. Hell Michelle Bernard is more supportive of Barack than Joan Walsh and Michelle is a conservative.

I guess it really sticks in my craw most of all because she's dishonestly driving the SEXISM card that had an unfortunate collision with the VICTIM card in the primaries. This is the antithesis of feminism and it really pisses me off.

and of course Joan took exception to it. Funny how a primary can make you start looking at people differently.

I think we've gone through the rabbit hole.

she is also married to Joe Johns, the journalist on CNN and she is a Barack supporter.

The GOP will bury this country once and for all if they squeak into office. An estimated three judges may be appointed in the next few years.

I guess I just don't understand how intelligent women can vote against their self-interests.

The comments section on her articles at Solon are full of their hairballs. Actually tho I just replied to you to say how much I love your sig pic. :hi:

MPK

In case you can't tell, I don't like Camille Paglia. :puke:

gets her more readership--promoting Paglia's crap, screeching sexism where none exists, whatever it takes to drum up interest. She's not so much a journalist or editor as a businesswoman.

I know who Ms. Paglia is and that many, many women don't like her, so I haven't bothered to give her the time of day even for reference.

The pretty unanimous :puke: is good enough for me.

or herself.

My vote is for the former.

I fucking can't stand her and was required to read her shit in college. :mad:

It's bad enough their demented puppet show sets women back decades, but when they do it in the name of "feminism" that's when my blood boils.

That kind of stuff reeks of Karl Rove. :mad:

They took a vote in my home and although I thought I had bribed the dog with treats, they voted to restrict my TV news type viewing to Rachel, Keith, Jon, Stephen, PBS, and CSPAN. They are tired of me yelling at the TV in response to the crazy shit going down.

makes about as much fucking sense.

I guess it means something completely different from what I thought it meant.

Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

I used to watch her on TV but all she did is whine. Then she started to go insane.

I stopped reading Salon. Let me "membership" expire. And I'm so pissed off at her I don't even read Glenn any more. I won't go to Salon because of her.

Sad. Don't know what happened to her.

Very strange.

Anyone who thinks Palin is a feminist needs to read up on the definition of a feminist.

There's a mistaken assumption that any woman who does things like run for public office must, of course, be a feminist. A surprising number of them are not. there was a State Senator in Kansas recently who said she thought that giving women the vote was a mistake.

I'm also reminded of how many Democrats who really should have known better in 2004 thought that McCain was a pretty good guy and that he really was rather liberal. I kept on posting that he was not, that he was very conservative. Fortunately, Democrats have come around to understanding that McCain is NOT one of us.

There's also the problem of younger (by which I mean younger than the Baby Boomers) women who will say things like, "I'm no feminist," not understanding to what extent they owe an awful lot to feminists, and that if they believe in equal pay for equal work, they really ARE feminists.

Palin is no feminist. Despite being a Governor.

pushing the "Obama called Palin a pig" daily talking point, I thought to myself that these women are every bit as useless as their male counterparts on the other side of the aisle.

What I mostly object to is that they seek to restrict their fellow women rather than empowering them. Assholes.

Although I'm sure we've all known a few of those. Or had them as bosses.

MPK

Employers still penalize women who have to care for their small children. Some still make it very, very difficult for them. For a party that touts family values, the GOP sure dumps on them when it comes to policy.

In the words of George Carlin commenting on GOP policy: "If you're pre-born you're golden, if you're pre-school you're fucked."

OK, I've had a long day and I'm tired, so I'm just going to let Eve do my talking for me - besides, she'll say it better than I could have:

But everything Sarah Palin believes in and practices is antithetical to Feminism which for me is part of one story -- connected to saving the earth, ending racism, empowering women, giving young girls options, opening our minds, deepening tolerance, and ending violence and war.

I believe that the McCain/Palin ticket is one of the most dangerous choices of my lifetime, and should this country chose those candidates the fall-out may be so great, the destruction so vast in so many areas that America may never recover. But what is equally disturbing is the impact that duo would have on the rest of the world. Unfortunately, this is not a joke. In my lifetime I have seen the clownish, the inept, the bizarre be elected to the presidency with regularity.

(snip)

I write to my sisters. I write because I believe we hold this election in our hands. This vote is a vote that will determine the future not just of the U.S., but of the planet. It will determine whether we create policies to save the earth or make it forever uninhabitable for humans. It will determine whether we move towards dialogue and diplomacy in the world or whether we escalate violence through invasion, undermining and attack. It will determine whether we go for oil, strip mining, coal burning or invest our money in alternatives that will free us from dependency and destruction. It will determine if money gets spent on education and healthcare or whether we build more and more methods of killing. It will determine whether America is a free open tolerant society or a closed place of fear, fundamentalism and aggression.

If the Polar Bears don't move you to go and do everything in your power to get Obama elected then consider the chant that filled the hall after Palin spoke at the RNC, "Drill Drill Drill." I think of teeth when I think of drills. I think of rape. I think of destruction. I think of domination. I think of military exercises that force mindless repetition, emptying the brain of analysis, doubt, ambiguity or dissent. I think of pain.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eve-ensler/drill-drill-drill_b_124829.html

Her aerial hunting makes me so angry. :mad:

She is a HORRIBLE candidate in so many ways, and even Republican women are stepping forward and saying "Thanks, but no thanks" to Caribou Barbie.

Love your sig line!!!

:hi:

(the logo, not the article, lol)
:hi:

:hug:

:pals:

In this strange new pro-woman tableau, feminism -- a word that is being used all over the country with regard to Palin's potential power -- means voting for someone who would limit reproductive control, access to healthcare and funding for places like Covenant House Alaska, an organization that helps unwed teen mothers. It means cheering someone who allowed women to be charged for their rape kits while she was mayor of Wasilla, who supports the teaching of creationism alongside evolution, who has inquired locally about the possibility of using her position to ban children's books from the public library, who does not support the teaching of sex education.

(snip)

What Palin so seductively represents, not only to Donny Deutsch but to the general populace, is a form of feminine power that is utterly digestible to those who have no intellectual or political use for actual women. It's like some dystopian future ... feminism without any feminists.

Palin's femininity is one that is recognizable to most women: She's the kind of broad who speaks on behalf of other broads but appears not to like them very much. The kind of woman who, as Jessica Grose at Jezebel has eloquently noted, achieves her power by doing everything modern women believed they did not have to do: presenting herself as maternal and sexual, sucking up to men, evincing an absolute lack of native ambition, instead emphasizing her luck as the recipient of strong male support and approval. It works because these stances do not upset antiquated gender norms. So when the moment comes, when tolerance for and interest in female power have been forcibly expanded by Clinton, a woman more willing to throw elbows and defy gender expectations but who falls short of the goal, Palin is there, tapped as a supposedly perfect substitute by powerful men who appreciate her charms.

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2008/09/11/zombie_feminism/?source=newsletter

Sorry, but she's the ideological love child of Phyllis Schlafly and George Bush.

:scared:

But at least Salon has this headline at the top of the page right now:

Zombie Feminists of the RNC

Just reading the first bit made me laugh out loud. Thanks for that.

I'm off to bed now and look forward to reading it.

Cheers.

She's a fucking joke.

I love Salon. I despise Joan Walsh. I refuse to read her "articles" or watch her when she's one TV. She's no better than a concern troll lurking on DU or Salon letters. When, in one of her many diatribes on the primary, she actually claimed that Obama did not face any racism on the campaign trail was when she finally lost me.

I support Salon for people like Greenwald, Andrew Leonard, and a few others. Joan Walsh can kiss my booty.