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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:05 PM
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Rasmussen Biased language
On the Rasmussen site, it's interesting how they phrase their headlines.

For Virginia, it just says: "VA: McCain 49, Obama 47."

But for PA, it says "Obama clings to modest lead in PA." I'm sorry -- CLINGS? MODEST LEAD? It's the same 2-point lead McCain has in VA, but it doesn't say McCain is clinging to a modest lead.

Geez.

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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:07 PM
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1. Like Fox saying 'Bush popularity on the rise!'

but neglecting to say it's still just south of ring in your toilet.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:07 PM
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2. I agree that they're biased, but they may be wording it that way because VA has been in the Rep.
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 03:11 PM by BklynChick
column for many years and PA should be going Democratic so a 2 point lead may feel like clinging because it shouldn't be that close. kwim?
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:08 PM
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3. If the election were held today.......
....would you vote for John McCain, American hero and POW and distinguished senator, or that black guy from Chicago?




LOL! I wouldn't doubt they would phrase it like that!
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:11 PM
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4. LOL
You need to be a pollster.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 04:04 PM
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5. They also oversample Republicans and under sample Dems
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:18 PM
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6. Quite possibly.
But you have to make assumptions. One possible assumption is that party affiliation doesn't change quickly; another possible assumption is that if a sufficiently large random sample shows a change, party affiliation must.

There's no reason to assume the first is true. There's no reason to assume the second is true. It's why your link makes arguments, but cites people who "believe".

All polling makes assumptions. Early exit polls make assumptions. When they factor in voter turnout by precinct, they make assumptions. When they correct for non-respondents, they make assumptions. In fact, all predictive statistics makes assumptions.

There's even the assumption that all those who re-registered as dems in the primaries and which help increase dem registration numbers are, in fact, interesting in voting dem in the general election. The best you can do is try to make your assumptions reasonable, and check to see if they hold at intermediate stages in number crunching.
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:24 AM
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7. Very good points eom
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:28 AM
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8. Worse
Channel 7 (ABC) in NYC this morning? The talking head referred to "Obama stepping up the rhetoric".

They probably also refer to female college students as 'co-eds' while male college students are well - just students.

And yes - I fired off an email to them. ;-)

I'm a bit perturbed with Obama and Biden's words/approach as 'rhetoric' and McCain and Palin's as strategy. Enough!
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