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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:48 AM
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American Conservative: Palin is a liar
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 09:49 AM by kpete
Lo and behold there are fiscal and movement conservatives who see through the smoke and are deeply troubled.

Pro-Palin Spin Going Nowhere Fast
Posted on September 11th, 2008 by Daniel Larison

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By McCain’s own standard, Palin’s eventual opposition to the bridge project is beside the point–it is federal pork as such that he finds offensive and which he now claims Palin has combated as part of his effort to make Palin into a credible reformer of Washington. It is hardly inspiring that she has to make false statements in order to make this central claim, and it is deeply troubling that the "reform" ticket is daily making claims about Palin’s record that only the most generous partisan could accept as honest.

To hear her tell it, she was some bright-eyed champion of halting earmark spending who wanted nothing to do with that ridiculous "Bridge to Nowhere." The reality was that she very artfully changed her position to fit the new political circumstances. Meanwhile, the people in Ketchikan (a.k.a., Nowhere) remember how she exploited Alaskan resentment at the national derision of their area to win support for her bid for governor, only to turn around on the national stage and use the same derision to put herself on the same page with McCain.

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Palin "stopped" the bridge after a significant component of its funding had been denied by Congress; she "stopped" the bridge when it had become a national symbol of wasteful pork and a target of derision. In other words, right up until the project became politically radioactive her instinct and her public position was to support it. It is true that Alaska Republicans supported the bridge and in zeroing out state funding Palin eventually broke with them, but it is equally true that she broke with her old position on the bridge, which had been identical with the position taken by the Alaska Congressional delegation. Indeed, as she said during her race for governor, she supported state funding for the project and thought it important to get the federal funding while Alaska’s Republican representatives in Congress were still in the majority.

http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/11/pro-palin-spin-going-nowhere-fast/
via:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/12/103033/481/945/596028
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:50 AM
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1. Now THAT's good news, when her own side says she's shit.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:37 PM
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15. Not exactly. These are true conservatives of the Barry Goldwater ilk.
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 04:38 PM by mistertrickster
They are sometimes called paleo-cons to distinguish them from neo-cons of the Bush-Cheney variety.

The fundy--gun nut--rural white backlash is neo-con, not paleo-con.

The neo-cons, for instance, don't really want to make government smaller. They want to make it bigger and funnel taxpayer money to their own groups, e.g., faith-based programs and big corporate contracts in Iraq.

On edit, the paleo-cons were opposed to the Iraq War too, because they recognized it wasn't in the US interest and meant more money spent by Washington . . .
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:51 AM
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2. In other words, she FLIP-FLOPPED
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:54 AM
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3. HOLY CRAP!
We are living in bizarro world right now!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:58 AM
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4. Hmm, wonder if McBush will do an ad calling Daniel Larison a liar, too. nt
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:20 AM
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5. Here's another: American Spectator's Phil Klein
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 10:23 AM by chill_wind
He's listed in the masthead as one of "The Top Brass". (Writer/Reporter) Great example here (re: Palin interview) on his blog.

"Are conservatives seriously going to argue that she knows what she's talking about?"



Stacy, maybe you're misunderstanding me. You may be right that her performance will prove good enough for swing voters, especially given that McCain will be at the top of the ticket. But I was criticizing conservatives who are actually defending her on substance. National security is of paramount importance to me, and for nearly eight years I've had to endure a president who is utterly incapable of clearly and intellegently articulating positions that I am inclined to agree with, so it bothers me that it's happening all over again. Palin is a politician who is going to do the best that she can in such interviews to get elected, and party members are going to fall in line to defend her. But conservative commentators actually have the freedom to be honest, if they choose to be, and so it's troubling to me that those who seriously debate and think about foreign policy and national security matters can watch that performance, and actually defend it, not just on whether it is effective enough politically, but on its substance.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:21 AM
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6. k and r
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:37 PM
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7. kick.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:39 PM
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8. Palin = Liar -- Spread the meme
Even her own party says so.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:44 PM
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9. Here's a picture to help ...


And a blank to make your own




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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:59 PM
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10. WHAT is she wearing????

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:06 PM
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11. That is actually Baghdad Bob's body with her head on it! n/t
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:11 PM
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12. Oh NOES! I got Bob-rolled!
Still, I do like the idea of her re-selling Girl Scout cookies to try and cover Wasilla's huge deficit. makes about as much sense as any of her other fiscal policies. ;)
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:13 PM
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13. Well, being Baghdad Bob is the quintessential liar. n/t
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:16 PM
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14. I think McCain and Palin are out to steal his title! n/t
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