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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:21 AM
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New Ad shows how HORRIBLE a person PALIN is...WOW this is brutal
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:26 AM
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1. Glad the 527s are coming to the fore. i wish they'd made it a :30
so it could be run on TV -- and with a little less of the horrific shots. People will respond negatively to US showing the brutality (like we are disgusted with the RNC for the 9/11 video), rather than at Palin. My two cents.

But I'm glad this topic is being addressed.


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Obamarulz11 Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:35 AM
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3. A total slap in the face to our sport
This is demeaning. Show this to all hunters and organizations. Last nights interview, now this.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:36 AM
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4. i am going ot show to hubby and son.... hunters. i know anti hunters (me) dont get the difference
but there is a HUGE difference from hunters with ethics, and this.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:40 AM
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8. I think the 'bounty' and the actual reasoning behind this "movement" is
to thin the population of wolves, who eat the caribou and moose which are the bread and butter of their hunting industry.

So, have more caribou and moose to offer the hunters. Get rid of those pesky wolves who are interfering with our bottom line.

It's cold blooded killing -- this is not hunting and it's not done for sport.


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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:43 AM
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9. I don't think this is a sport --
it's an attempt to get rid of the wolves (hence the bounty) which prey on the caribou and moose populations (which are what brings the hunters and their $$$ to the area.)

This is just bounty hunting.


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HarveyBrooks Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:11 AM
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20. HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love it when you folks call gunning down defenseless animals a "sport."
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:30 PM
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54. ditto
Take a long-lens camera and shoot pictures, for goodness sake :wtf:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:21 PM
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50. May long-time hunters disagree with you. They abhor aerial hunting.
It's unsportsmanlike to hunt animals from helicopters. It's a lot like shooting quail that are released in an enclosed area.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:06 AM
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61. "like shooting quail that are released in an enclosed area"
And who do we know that likes to shoot tamed birds?

Speaking of birds... those two really are birds of a feather.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:30 PM
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55. Hunting from the air a defenseless animal is no sport.... You can't even put them out of their
misery quickly
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thestrugglecontinues Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:52 AM
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15. Does she shoot from planes herself?
I heard or read somewhere that she engages in this activity herself.
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jctw769 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:46 PM
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34. post proof to accompany this? it would help.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:19 PM
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45. Defenders of Wildlife is a not-for-profit conservation group that's been against aerial hunting 4evr
I'm a proud member and just contributed more money today to help them showcase this ad in more targeted markets.


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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:33 AM
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2. I approve of this message.
My dad was an avid hunter/tracker and he would NEVER advocate that kind of pathetic, blood-lust, bourgeois, slaughter-fest. What is it with Republicans? Dickhead shoots at caged birds, Lippy the Pitbull advocates aerial assaults... I'm beginning to think that Repukes can do nothing unless it's all been pre-arranged for them in some way.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:58 AM
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19. THIS VIDEO JUST MADE ME CRY!!!!
HUBBY SAW ME CRYING HYSTERICALLY IN FRONT OT THE COMPUTER.


this is for real????????????????
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:21 PM
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49. Yes, it's for real.
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 06:25 PM by ClarkUSA
She made it easier for sociopaths to collect bounties by thinking up the "$150 for each foreleg" idea. :cry:

Please donate a little money to keep this ad on the air in targeted swing states: http://tinyurl.com/4w952d
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:36 AM
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5. Awesome! How far behind can dynamite fishing be?

Do I really need the sarcasm simile?

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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:38 AM
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6. video no longer available n/t
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:39 AM
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7. i just watched it.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:54 AM
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17. I got a blank screen with that message at the top of the video window
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 10:54 AM by POAS
Working now though
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:55 AM
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18. it's still there, i just clicked on it again.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:45 AM
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10. Good - I've been waiting for a nice Goldwater-daisies level ad on our side.
:evilgrin:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:46 AM
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11. That's going to get some independent women on our side--and dare I say it? LEGITIMATE hunters, too.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:48 AM
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12. I think it is appropriate to show how this woman Palin does not
condone the killing of wolves and other wildlife. This is cruelty to animals.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:49 AM
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13. Please rate & pass it on! (nt)
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:49 AM
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14. People who do this to animals are not presidential material.
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danimich1 Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:52 AM
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16. Just sent Defenders of Wildlife a donation
They need to air that everywhere. Palin is sick.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:16 AM
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22. Same here. I could spend more money than I have sending it to thank people.... ;->
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ShadesOfGrey Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:22 PM
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27. Me too! Another way to help is to

to go their "take action" section and send a letter to your representative in support of PAWS.

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danimich1 Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:28 PM
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29. Would love to, but it's a waste of time - I live in Wyoming
Our representatives are pieces of s#@t. You should have seen the responses I received when I complained about not counting all the votes in 2000.

And yes, I am surrounded by otherwise intelligent people who turn into morons when it comes to politics. I have friends who proudly are wearing sweatshirts declaring "Hockey moms for McCain/Pailin" and "My hockey mom can beat up your community organizer any day." It's sick and hard to stomach. At least I can send my money to organizations that are doing some good, but that's about all I can do. Wyo is red, and that's not going to change anytime soon.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:15 AM
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21. their base will love the hunt scenes.
but their base is already their base. show this to the psychopaths, and they will get stiff.
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SteppingStone Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:28 AM
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23. A good website that exposes Sarah's

wildlife exploitation goals.

http://www.grizzlybay.org/SarahPalinInfoPage.htm

"Sarah Palin spent $400,000 of state money to "educate" Alaskans about aerial hunting of wolves and bears. State tax money was used to directly influence the outcome of proposition 2 which would have limited aerial shooting of predators. Since Alaskans had previously voted twice to ban aerial shooting of predators, Palin used state tax money to buy support for aerial shooting. Buying votes with tax money worked - proposition two was voted down on 8/26/08."
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:41 AM
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24. Please tell me this will be aired beyond the Internets.
It's absolutely horrible.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:13 PM
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26. First to be shown in Toledo & Dayton and then ....
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 12:14 PM by Mabus
It will air in a "targeted buy" in the Toledo and Dayton, OH, markets, spokeswoman Jessica Brand said. She added that they plan to scale it up in Ohio and in other swing states later, but didn't immediately have a dollar figure.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Defenders_of_Wildlife_vs_Palin_Brutal.html#comments


edited to correct format.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:44 AM
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25. The truth is as brutal as that footage
It has to be gotten out.
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Zenmaster Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:27 PM
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28. The only problem with this video is we need to get some hunters to vote for Obama
I think a lot of people with the PETE/Animal rights activists = bad mentality are going to be turned off by ads like this.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:39 PM
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31. Most Hunters Do Not Consider Shooting Wolves from Airplanes to be Hunting
We should be able to score some points with the hunters on this too, if we do it right.

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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:35 PM
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30. This "practice" is a slap in the face to hunters
But I am not sure if this ad really points that out. A responsible hunter hiking for hours in knee deep snow stalking an animal and using a rifle or even a bow would in most instances find hunting from a plane despicable. Unfortunately, the way that the ad uses savagery, may make hunters think that they're describing all hunting as savage.
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DeschutesRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:15 PM
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41. We have hunted in the past
and one year did buy a cougar tag, as our area is overrun with them and some have been targeting humans, small pets, my cattle and the like. So ours was a self defense move (we live on a 1000 acres, surrounded by hundreds of thousands of blm and NFS acreage, so I am not exactly crowding their space in town). We no longer hunt deer for our vension (nor buy it in the store shipped in from NZ), but I have no issues with hunting, ie the real deal hunting. It is just a different, and probably to me, way more honest form of getting one's meat than that practiced by people who have to rely on the grocery store and someone else doing the heavy lifting of taking another life to sustain their own. Don't blame people for doing the butcher shop neat shiny plastic package thing, except when they refuse to get that a feedlot animal has a shitty life compared to one that is out on its own terms in nature, right up until the minute its life is taken. If we are eating meat (which I am), then quality of life is an issue for my eating habits.

There two kinds of hunters - those who do it and eat what they harvest (a harsher version to some of what ohers just let a fed lot/slaughter house do for them), plus they actually "hunt", which takes days and they walk miles.

The other group is a bunch of fucking creeps, and who do it for bloodlust and sport. I hate these people, I wish them hunted themselves. I can't express my disgust - hunting from helicopters is not about filling your freezing or even hunting. It is what psychopathic people do to "pass" as normal hunters to the rest of society.

And those bastards don't fool me one bit.
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:44 PM
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32. Arm the wolves!
Let's make this 'sport' a fair, two-sided competition!

But we know that the Repugs don't like any kind of fair competition....

Which is why they haven't won an election fair & square in 20 years.


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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:45 PM
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33. Is this video seeing air time anywhere? Anyone know?
I question calling this necessarily a bad thing as I know there are some times when wild populations must be controlled for very good reasons and usually there is no humane way to do it.

Having said all that however, I think the emotional appeal of this on independents could turn a lot of votes away from the 'Pukes.

We must use either this one or something to the same affect.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:47 PM
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35. I've said it before and I'll say it again, she pissed off a nation of animal lovers. n/t
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:36 PM
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36. Disgusting!
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:43 PM
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37. when did this ad come out theres almost 50,000 thousand hits on there WOW
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:53 PM
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38. So much for the culture of life. I understand hunting for need, but this is just blood sport.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:01 PM
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39. OMG. That is just sickening!
Absolutely sickening.

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chappydog26 Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:13 PM
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40. Horrible
I just watched it, and one of the latest comments on the video is (and I quote): "fuck....John Mccain just lost my vote."

This needs to be shown everywhere!
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:16 PM
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42. She's a fu*king POS. Brutal. Unempathic. Self-righteous. Bushie boy in a skirt.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:18 PM
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43. This is worse than shooting a friend in the face!!
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:18 PM
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44. she has no prolem with bear traps either, I'd like to see the shoe on the other foot
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:20 PM
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46. I'd rather see her head in the trap.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:20 PM
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47. Good. I'll spread this around.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:21 PM
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48. How's this:
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:26 PM
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51. I haven't seen the video that you posted about
I usually immediately hide all threads dealing with animal abuse. (The suffering of children and animals is my big problem with believing in a loving God.)

However, I did post the YouTube clip URL about aerial wolf hunting on my local paper's comment section, which had nothing to do with hunting), and got a response right away:

"That video shows a wolf's body exploding. This Palin is a psycho in Laura Ashley. Man, this country is going to get it worse than the last 8 years...OMG..."

Get this video clip out...no matter the topic.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:42 PM
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59. True... we are Fucked with this Heartless ******
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:27 PM
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52. Please donate a little money to keep this ad on the air in targeted swing states --->
You can even get a Defenders of Wildlife jacket for donating only $20! http://tinyurl.com/4w952d
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:28 PM
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53. ?
I agree, but I haven't seen it in my general media market in Dallas. Where are they so everyone can see that witch for what she really is - Palin the Impaler. :grr:
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:31 PM
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56. I hope this ad goes viral. I may have to help spread it!
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:33 PM
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57. This needs to be in all 50 states Now !!!!!!
We dont need another fucking ad !!! Just this one...
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:39 PM
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58. Brutal. Where is this ad showing, other than You Tube?
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:42 PM
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60. Fuck.
:cry:
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