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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:25 PM
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Are We Being Played By Rove?
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 07:28 PM by kpete
e-mail to Andrew Sullivan:

I just wanted to say thank you so much for being the only blogger (aside from Al Giordano) who gets it. While the rest of the blogosphere (especially the liberal bloggers) lose their heads you are an island of common sense. Patience and Steel. Yes, yes. yes.

It also occurs to me that in a way McCain and Rove have actually simply taken over the liberal blogosphere in some way. They are being played.

Just a few examples---yesterday Obama gave a fantastic interview at the Service Forum. Did the liberal blogs even cover this? No.

He gave a great speech on the trail. Are his town halls even posted or excerpted? No.

The liberal bloggers have become McCain central. They make people click on his ads, make the world spin around him instead of focusing on our candidate and what he is trying to do. There is ZERO coverage of what Obama is actually doing every day talking tough on the issues. There is ZERO coverage of Biden (who is on the trail but the blogs don't seem to care or cover him unless he is doing what they think he should be doing. Sadly AFP did cover him this week and people seemed to be too busy saying he was not doing anything to include the link with his forceful comments against McCain. The one time the blogs linked to Biden---when the MSM tried to make a big deal out his answer to a question that made Hillary look bad and he defended her. That was it).

McCain and crew realized early this cycle that they did not have a visible internet presence. So what did they do? They took over the liberal presence, they are manipulating the leading liberal blogs , just as they manipulate the MSM. All to their own advantage. And the blogs have all fallen for this hook, line and sinker. Does no one realize this?

They are all being played.

And Obama, god bless him, he gets it. As does his team. while everyone whines he keeps at it every day with much much class and like a laser focused on the issues. The problem is not Obama, is that no one wants to follow his lead. Instead they are following McCain-Rove and they don't even know it.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/are-the-netroot.html

kpete, i plead guilty
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:26 PM
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1. welcome to PU - Palinundergound, making the election about personalities not issues lol nt
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:27 PM
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2. We aren't being played by Rove
Unfortunately, we don't really care about the issues either. We already agree with Obama on almost everything. So we have very little interest in discussing his presentations of policy.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:28 PM
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3. YES - absolutely
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 07:31 PM by FreakinDJ
The focus is off the Issues and now being waged on “Character” Some thing the Ratpublican Slur Machine can delude through Lies, Hate Mail Campaigns, Push-Polling, and innuendo

Just take a look at this thread here on DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=108&topic_id=133617&mesg_id=133617
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:31 PM
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4. If posts about Palin are about WINNING okay, if they are indulgent they are damaging at this point
Now latecomers to the story want to post their jokes and opinions but we MUST move on.

If it is a news item that condemns her however I want to hear about it. But even then
I find it suspicious to see things repeated so often. I wonder if that is operation
chaos or just unaware DUers.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:33 PM
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5. All your post are belong to Rove.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:39 PM
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6. Perhaps we need a Palin discussion area?
:crazy:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:49 PM
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7. I don't see why it has to be an either/or situation.
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 07:50 PM by Forkboy
I don't see Rove behind every corner. I'm sorry, I just don't. Under his so-called leadership the Republican party has become the weakest it's been since Watergate. That's not the work of a supreme genius. We give him far, far too much credit, and by doing so we just weaken ourselves for him.

Instead they are following McCain-Rove and they don't even know it.

There's simply no proof of this. I could just easily say that the people who think we shouldn't attack Palin are buying into some Rove conspiracy, which would make just as much sense. There's no way Palin would be the VP pick if Rove was the all powerful controller too many act like he is.

As for Palin, while there may be more focus on her than we'd prefer at the moment, we'd be fools to walk away from such a glaring weakness in their ticket. You exploit weaknesses in your enemy, not walk away from them. McCain gave us a gift, one that is already starting to pay off.

We can't afford to keep second guessing ourselves because we fear Rove's omnipotent presence. It's a myth, and buying into that myth and backing off is helping the Republicans just as surely as any imaginary trap Rove may have in waiting for us.

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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:51 PM
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8. Rove keeps planting bs stories , were onto his shit.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:53 PM
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9. "We" are playing "ourselves"
Keep standing and slugging. Never relent. If you get knocked down, get back up.

Keep your head up and keep battling like there is tomorrow, if we are we will win.

Stand strong and we will bring them down.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 08:14 PM
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10. Welles said, "That was no Martian. It's Halloween."
I'm really sick of reading about Rove as some sort of genius with super-powers. He's just a bag man with no scruples, shielded by money.

That's all he is. And there are a hundred others now doing the job he retired from.
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