Liz Dole - "No right to freedom from religion."

In her speech at the RNC she said we Americans have the right of freedom of religion not freedom FROM religion.

Good grief.

Well, she is certainly mistake there.

she is wrong. I am tired of these assholes hitting everyone else over the head with their religion.

...and this woman claims to be a lawyer?? What did she do? Miss con law class when she went to law school? :eyes:

hmmmmmm

...I will have another drink.

Two more days of this the 2004 Repuke Putsch is going to make 1992 seem warm and fuzzy.

"God Created Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve"..

I feel like Mr. Creosote.
Where's my Bucket? :puke:

God created Adam and Lilith....but we won't go into that here....

and it is a story worth telling.

People with too much time on their hands made the whole thing up.

But we won't go into that here, either.

This despicable, plastic wench makes me sick. She and her hubby have really sunk lower than even I thought possible within the past week. Incidentally, she's also been an extraordinary senator - - hardly a piece of legislation goes out of the upper house without her name on it. :eyes:

Ok... as long as its my religion. How terribly silly.

I hardly ever talk back to the tv. Her whole speech was infuriating.

you did nothing wrong :)

Too bad she's a lunatic.

Geez, what a creepy comment.

In this country, you definately have freedom from religion. Doesn't she know anything about history? Jefferson felt that his statute for religious freedom was so important he had it listed on his tombstone as one of his major achievements (the others being author of the Declaration of Independence and Father of the University of Virigina).

And Rat Robertson? And Jerry Falwell? And all those who just want to be left alone?

Quick, somebody give me all their phone numbers. I've got some preachin ta do!

The only way to freedom.

"Pedant Mode" On!

Actually, it's "Mankind will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." - Denis Diderot

"Pedant Mode" Off!

These days, though, I think it's, until the last Republican is strangled with the entrails of the last fat, lazy, corrupt, self-impressed so-called journalist.

Add overpaid. As to the "press" I just don't know what we can do about this kind of corruption. Some blame Kerry just like they blamed Gore. But I can't really see what they can do either.

but there are some fuckers really asking for it.

She is dead wrong.

hasn't had a good f**k in years. Rots your brain.

Ohhhhhh, Psychosomatic blindness... I can't handle it... I am traumatized for life.

religion of the oppressive type. Freedom from religion is a core principle of our country. These people are nuts!

that she's saying this stuff. This is not the moderate face they want to convey.

http://ffrf.org/index.php

Since 1978, the nonprofit Freedom From Religion Foundation has been working to

* keep state and church separate
* educate the public about the views of nontheists.

Members include freethinkers from all 50 states, Canada, and other countries. The Foundation monitors abuses of the separation of state and church, taking lawsuits and officially complaining about such abuses.

I went to a FFRF convention in San Antonio a coupla years ago and loved it. Best part was a skit about Noah's Ark.

My friend in Florida was copied on this email sent to a bunch of her religious right family members. Is sounds like it was sent out straight from RNC headquarters. Is it even worth responding to this sort of drivel? (Sorry for the weird spacing)...


 (This was asked to a local Pastor and I thought he answered very well. Maybe you will agree and pass this on to someone you know).


    Should a Christian vote Democratic or Republican?


    Dear Pastor:


    I'm one of those who are still undecided about our presidential election in November.  My family has always voted Democrat because we thought they did more for the working family than the Republican Party.  I think

  President Bush is doing a good job with the war on terror, but Senator Kerry says he can do a better job.  I am very concerned about the economy and  the future of the Social Security.  Does the Bible give any direction that might help a Christian vote wisely?


    WHAT A QUESTION FOR ALL CHRISTIANS TO DEAL WITH AND ANSWER.


    There are two issues that separate the two parties and they are very,

  very important to a God fearing person.

  1. Legalized abortion.

  2. Legal sanction on homosexual activity.


    God warns in the 18th. Chapter of Leviticus that such sins defile a

  nation and the land it occupies.  He promises that such sin will cause the

land

  to vomit out its inhabitants.  Our country is facing the time of acceptance

  and legal status to homosexual marriages.


    If we can do this and survive, then God Almighty is a lair, the Bible is

  a fable and our faith is a sham.  One party is loudly in favor of both

  abortion and homosexual approval and the other party is against both

  issues.

  As a Christian, I can NEVER vote for those who promote what God condemns.

  There's NO choice when it comes to approving what the Lord forbids.  It's

  not the economy or the war or Social Security; it's what is right as the

  Bible so says.  Vote but vote right.  God will be watching as you do.

pork?

18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with women kind it is an abomination."

Indeed there is some who read the original and see a no no to forced sex - only.

Interesting Pastor.

sigh ....

There's religion, anti-religion and religion neutral. Maniac delusional types can't live with religion neutral...

They leave no prejudice untapped.

Racism, religious intolerance, homophobia, anti-intellectualism.

They're masters at it.

is she four-point restained to the bed every sunday morning to prevent her from slithering down to her temple of worship? if not, what's her fuckin' point?

we call that "red meat" friends.

Rethugs often play up Liddy as smart, as some sort of counterpoint to Hillary. Heh. I think this comment speaks for itself.

Complete, vacuous idiot. I hope Easley runs against her in 2008.

with the big orange aluminum baseball bat of modernity.

when I heard that. I only heard* the "...freedom of religion, not freedom from religion..." part but did she precede it with something like "...the Constitution guarantees..." or something along those lines? Did anyone catch what preceded that part?

* OK,I have to admit that I haven't actually been "listening" to the crapola from the RNC. I mute the TV, turn on closed captioning, and put some tunes on the stereo. Even with that, I find it necessary to change channels because I can only take so much. Personally, McCain disgusted me with his lies last night so I didn't even bother to check out what Guiliani was saying because I was beyond fed up by then.

And yes, I'm an atheist but I fully respect people's right to practice their chosen religion. I have no problem with that whatsoever. The very laws that protect their freedom TO worship are the same ones that protect my freedom FROM worship. Unless of course you go by Elizabeth Dole's interpretation in which case I would be forced to choose some sort of religion. Canada is looking better and better every day.

Actually, I've heard this line before from the repukes (the "no freedom from religion" one). Its more important than ever now, I guess, what with the chosen liar in the midst of a crusade and all.

Bush can't win without 'em.

Her state is right smack dab in the middle of the bible belt. She is also pandering to her base. But give NC some credit. They also have some forward thinking residents who elected their other senator.

Just keep it away from me! I can pray and practice my religion without you telling me the 'right' way to do it!!!

if one counters that "no" religion (say atheism or agnosticism) falls under the penumbra of a perspective that demands a right to the freedom to practice the absence of religion, unencumbered by government interference, that perspective also can not be promoted in government, just as other religious perspectives can not be promoted.

the world of Null-A is alive and well in the pea brains of the gopers

eom.

I hate that goddamn bitch