They're deflated, just talked to a Repub acquaintance of mine.

I won't call him a friend because we're not, but anyway, here's a bit of a background.

He's quite a bit older than me and calls himself a JFK Republican. We constantly battle about that, but he's convinced if JFK were alive today, he'd be a Republican. His parents are Democratic and he even voted for Clinton in 1992. Anyway, he has been convinced for a while McCain would win, but tonight we had an interesting chat.

I brought up the economy and said the candidate who connects with the voters on this issue will win the election. It will be the number one issue come November 4th and he agreed. Then he said, which surprised me, that Obama showed more substance here than McCain and went on to say he should have chosen Romney because of the economic issues, though he understood the Palin choice and why Romney didn't get it. He had told me a while back his parents were Clinton supporters and were going to vote McCain if Obama won the nomination. Sure enough, when he did, they kept their word and said they would support McCain. However, when McCain chose Palin, both his parents said they're not voting. It's the first time in decades they haven't voted and even though I wish they'd support Obama, a no-vote is better than a McCain vote.

But here is where I really was surprised, I could tell by listening to him that he felt very pessimistic and conceded that McCain's only chance in this thing was a game changer in the debates and then he ended it by saying he sensed Obama would win narrowly and the shocker was that he didn't seem too upset. Just said he wished Obama had more experience, as if that was his biggest reservation.

He'll still vote McCain, but it seems he realizes the writing on the wall and is sensing an Obama presidency might not be all that bad.

:beer:

Other than the really RW fundies who think Palin was sent by god, the rational Pubs realize what a disaster she would be as Prez, and although I don't wish him any ill will, I think everyone realizes that McNuts is an old man with a history of cancer so they MUST strongly consider his VP could very well be our Prez! SHUDDER!!!!!!!!!!!!

that if Lincoln were alive today he'd be a democrat.

Anybody who remembers the early 1960's remembers Mama Rose Kennedy, hatchet face looming off the stage at Jack's campaign appearances.

Rose, daughter of Honey Fitz, Mayor of Boston, would have strangled Jack if he'd become a Pub.

I'm reminded of the late Tim Russert's joke about being born in blue-collar Buffalo. "It was a neighborhood where you were born a Democrat, but baptized Catholic."

Rose = tough old lady. She finally passed on at 105, right?

A family that raised two Presidental contenders the rethugs were so afraid of they had to assasinate and one who came from his sick bed to be there for his party would never have a "Coleman-redcoat" in their family.

JFK would change the party to his liking by force of personality before he'd stop being a DEM if he were alive today.

the thinking of Republicans.... but I guess that's just it -- they're not thinking!! They have theirs and to heck with everyone else.

According to Bill Clinton - "when people think, we win."

Let's make people think. :)

The difference between them is that Clinton is highly intelligent and had an excellent education and Bush...well...not so much. A smart person can do any job well because they can absorb knowledge and information quickly and understand complex situations.

Obama: Harvard, graduated magna cum laude
McCain: USNA graduated 894th in a class of 899. That means he was in the bottom 1% of his class.

Bush was right, the president is the decider. If he were smart he would have said decision maker. At any rate, smart people understand situations better and make smart decisions.

This needs to be stressed to people who are hung up on experience.

The civil rights act divided this country, and all of the racists ran to the Republicans. It's still the party of bigotry, and JFK would not have fit in.

people who don't get that bush has had 8 years of so called experience on the job as POTUS and it hasn't helped that individual a damn bit.

Then there's someone like Obama who has the judgement and prescience to be against the War On Iraq in October 2002. And, of course, that's not all of his good judgement and experience..he's actually been in a community Organizing..learning from the ground up just like he wants to strengthen our country. Just because he was a state senator in Illinois all those years doesn't mean it was experience that wasn't helpful on his path, as well.

And this has all been an invaluble experience too..running a successful campaign with how many employees, how much money generated and how long connecting to the American People in how many States of the Union?

It's unique..it's the real kind not beltway insulated experience.

I really want to know what is that experience.

95% of the time and before that? Voting against Clinton and voting with bushsr and reagun? Just a wild guess.

Then when it was down to Hillary and Obama I had to check into Obama and saw that his resume in unconventional for a President, but still has a lot of substance. And his pick of Biden was good for the experience issue because Obama obviously over the course of the campaign has been open to ideas if they are better than his own.

But his community organizing time has made him a man who can really look at the "everymans" in this country and not look down at them. I value that in a President because someone who really sees the people he's representing as people isn't going to pull the type of crap *ush did.

I can remember when my heart just closed on *ush and made me see him for the stupid millionaire brat he is. I read Molly Ivin's book BUSHWHACKED. There is a story there about how people kept coming to *ush to sign an extension/advance of funds for the Energy Assistance Program so it could continue to work even though they were projected to run out of money due to rising costs. He kept putting it off and finally signed it in Feb. Now everyone had told him it would take 2 months to process once he signed it so they didn't get help until April and by then Spring was around the corner. BUT 10 people in Chicago had to freeze to death because *ush couldn't be bothered.

Barrack is not the kind of man who would let people freeze to death if it was in his power to prevent it. In fact, no other pRez before *ush had ever been heartless enough to do so.


Experience - Character. Nice to get both, but of the two I think Character is more important.

have no business being the president of anything except their own fan club. But, our country suffered through those years to create the perfect storm that brings us someone of rare quality who can also win.

That's my theory:)

they hate it when I'm smug;)

I went to a College party when I was 17 and they had a trash can filled with fruit punch, grain alcohol, and pineapple and oranges. Me and my buddies slammed the shit down and though we were so damn cool. Then the next day and I mean all day, we felt like shit.

The repukes have that same hangover now. The drink looked great, colorful, tasty, but in the end it was just a cheap high that made them feel like shit.

"He had told me a while back his parents were Clinton supporters and were going to vote McCain if Obama won the nomination. Sure enough, when he did, they kept their word and said they would support McCain."

They are racist...plain and simple. This man is 73 and ill and voted with Bush 100% of the time. If you switch to him you're crazy and not voting is crazy too. They just can't handle the color of Obama's skin.

Only republican "acquaintances"
very interesting :)