John McCain has Alzheimer's Disease.

One, two, maybe three gaffes would be normal. John McCain makes mental mistakes daily. He cannot remember what he said five minutes ago and he cannot recall how many houses he has. Cindy is with him 24/7 because they are afraid he is going to make a wrong turn coming of the stage and get lost. You have to be an idiot not to see it.

After Ronald Reagan, now we know what the early stages of Alzheimer's looks like. I have no doubt that McCain has Alzheimer's and that should scare the shit out of all of us. I say we give it back to Rove in his own way. Let's publicize the fact that McCain is on his way to full blown Alzheimer's....it will make the MSM eventually. I'd like to see Dr. Sanjay Gupta do a prime time show about John McCain and what Alzheimer's does to the brain and body. It is sad....

Funny!

A doctor would be wrong to make a long-distance diagnosis -- sort of like Sarah Palin's doctor supposedly telling her it was OK to fly after her water broke and without examining her.

However, as a voter, I have to decide whether this man is mentally fit to be president. I can make any assessment I want -- especially if the campaign is going to great lengths to hide his medical records. They are forcing me to make a decision based on limited information. If that decision is wrong, they are the ones at fault.

They need to release all of McCain's medical records immediately.

diagnosis or any diagnosis at all. Sarah Palins water did not break, it was leaking and that is completely different and that fucking horse has just been beat to death.

It doesn't make any difference. Her doctor made a long-distance diagnosis -- and reportedly gave her clearance to fly without examining her. I don't know any reputable doctor who would do that. They would tell you to go to the nearest ER, have them examine you and have them determine whether you were OK to fly.

Which is good on his part because it could have gotten his medical license taken away.

I would venture to say that a doctor treating a woman with AMA and a special needs fetus would have strongly suggested she not fly to TX in the first place.

and corporate Oil Lizards, and didn't want anyone to know, hence the "Secret baby ride" back to Alaska.. Is that the dead horse You've Been beating? Because a lot of folks don't know about that..

--when the mofos won't give you any effing DATA! Blame them, not the people who fill in the blanks. It's a universal mental reflex to do this, and only a minority have the scientific training to control it somewhat.

seeing them in person makes the one issuing the dx look stupid. Which is why we all made fun of Bill Frist. You can't diagnose someone off tv.

If those who have the real information refuse to supply it, maybe some rumormongering will encourage them.

forgetful, that's an opinion. When you claim that someone has a disease, that's a diagnosis.

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God this is funny stuff.

Remember that speech bush gave in the mid-90s where he actually sounds articulate and (gasp) somewhat smart? By the time he ran for prez he was an incoherent idiot, as he remains. Of course we remember the doddering St. Ronald and his many mental lapses. And they ran Dole when he was, what, 115 years old?

And now we have a clearly addled McCain who is much less acute than he used to be, and he wasn't all that sharp before. (Ask Annapolis.)

Boy, the R's sure can pick 'em, can't they? Lucky for them they keep winning anyway!

"wait their turn" (Bob Dole said, "It's my turn" all through his primary). Except, of course, when a Bush elbows his way to the head of the line.

That's because for the most part, people in the US are uncomfortable around smart people.

Starting with Adlai Stevenson in the '50's who was lambasted for being an "egghead."

Our country embraces stupid. Every election, I think it can't get any worse, and every election it does.

Why is "intellectual" an insult?

all..........

ELITE. ABOVE the rest of us. SNOOTY. Conceited.
"Oh, you think you're so smart!" "Smarty-pants!" "Teacher's pet!"

"Brains" are the antithesis (in AMERICA) of "brawn" and "beauty".
Intellectual men = Ineffectual men. The 90-pound weakling. The professor in the Ivory Tower. The no-can-do.
Intellectual women = Unattractive women. The spinster teacher. The old-maid librarian. The pants-suited politician.

We mistrust intellect because it forces us to QUESTION. Question authority (e.g., politics, religion); question others' opinions and their sources. That can lead to arguments, to controversies, to revolutions.

It is EASIER NOT TO THINK. Intellectuals hold our mental laziness and apathetic acceptance of authority up to us as a mirror, where we see no "there" there.

Why else would "He/she is someone I'd like to have a beer with"..be a qualification for Pres/VP???

Welcome to DU!

intelligent brain would get in the way and be extremely inconvenient.

ugh sorry spellcheck.

please pick up on the purple prose courtesy phone to make another asshole diagnosis.

Get a fucking grip.

Way to go, making up shit and completely underestimating McCain, something we cannot afford to do.

too much of a reach?

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If anyone has had a family member with the disease, they know exactly what I mean. All you have to do is observe McCain....he reminds me of my Grandfather who started having TIAs and then he just got worse and worse...

about this - without getting a zillion "you are no doctor" threads. It doesn't
work that way around here, unfortunately. If people took the 30 seconds it took
to write a barb and wrote something thoughtful - this place would be so much greater.

My dad, for the last 13 years has been suffering with some type of dementia - not
sure if it's alzheimers since he can still drive and has not gotten terribly worse

But, I know exactly what you are talking about. The utter confusion and pain trying
to recall things. It's a "look" that is written all over his face sometimes. And
the doting wife and friends "willing him" to get whatever he is saying right. I've
seen it a million times.

exSpaining to do
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because he just doesn't seem to be "in his element". Look at him in videos just five years ago, etc.

they need someone who is not only stupid enough to do their bidding, but also stupid enough to think you are really president. unless you are just evil enough to do their bidding and like it.

but, i agree. he is 72 for chrissakes.

His Physician is not talking.

I think we can all agree that McLiar/McHoover is "not the same McCain" that he was ten, fifteen years ago. We can disagree on what has happened, but there is little doubt that he has changed. Whenever people go through that kind of morphing it's completely legitimate to wonder, I think.

As I've posted here before, McCain has a demonstrably unstable, volatile personality which is by itself reason to question his ability to be the kind of president we need in this fast-moving world. Alzheimers or no, that's the point, seems to me.

I know because my father had it. If one is already short tempered, sometimes this aspect is even more pronounced.

McCain really strikes me as having some form of early dementia.

Not a good choice for POTUS (even without it!)

even a certificate from the Wizard of Oz). Just cite his memory, anger issues, etc. Those make him unsuitable for the Presidency, regardless of the unifying diagnosis, if any. Then you stay with the issues, instead of getting into a debate about whether it's really his Alzheimer's or your imagination and ageism.

disease really began to consume him. John McCain doesn't have gaffes; he has gaps of time missing between long periods of lucidity. I strongly support testing McCain for Alzheimer's.

...exactly how McCain is acting.

I called it a "fugue" state. I was one of the first people to notice it. We all were in the ER with my friend's father who had been brought to the hospital because he had had a stroke. The BIL concerned me because he would just blank out.

The BIL is now in a board and care and is totally out of it and has been that way for about 2 years. This is now about 4 years after I noticed how he just mentally checked out.

I agree with you totally ~~ having seen the exact same thing before and where it went very rapidly after that.

you mean. I have thought the same thing about him.

and if that's the case, John McCain has my sympathies and the Republicans are manipulating a confused old man.

hidden in books or pasted to the inside of the bathroom mirror.

At the same time, I'm enraged by the idea that McCain may be in the early stages of Alzheimer's, yet propped up by a pile of turd blossoms.

Watch him when he's on stage and Palin is speaking.

via autopsy?

I mean at least change your topic to: "I think John McCain has Alzheimers".

If so, you would not be questioning my post. I am not Dr. Frist....

That's like saying, "Have you ever been in the service? No? Then you CAN'T comment on anything Military!"

Some of us have volunteered at Nursing homes, take buses, or work in Retail and have adequate exposure to Senile Dementia to recognize the signs...


I do agree that saying "John McCain has Alzheimers" is too declarative, even though i agree with you. I just think we should focus on having his medical records released. I heard there are over 1,700 pages of them...


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Looks bad for the OP, imo - diminishes credibility, imo.

That he announces that he indeed has developed the first stages and is unfit to lead the ticket, ten he relinquishes his nomination to Palin.
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no question in my mind...and I've posted to that effect before...I don't need to watch an alcoholic drink to know he or she is one, and I don't need to see any more of the metamorphosis of this man to make a presumptive dx.

Flat out saying that McCain has Alzeimers is just one more way for someone to make DU look dumb.

I take your point, but I figured that if it had been officially diagnosed, I'd have seen about 10000 threads on it.

Maybe an abbreviation "IT" for "I think"

Combative and desultory language pisses me right the fuck off.

good morning

It is, by far, the most common form of dementia.

Just state it as fact even though it is not and eventually it will be fact.

the McCain of 4-5 years ago, and I was beginning to think it wasn't just the pandering/flip-flopping to get votes. He seems OUT OF IT too often. And then others are saying they think the cancer is still there or has come back. I don't want him to die - I'm a cancer survivor himself - just don't want him to win the election!

...with an inability to remember things. C'mon, this is just a political vulnerability, not a medical symptom.

The real power is behind the curtain.

I don't know if he has Alzheimer's or not but could either of them be any less competent than Bush or Reagan? What's really scary are the ideas of the people not out front that will pull their strings. Their competence is probably irrelevant. They won't let him or her make any decisions they don't approve of.

....:scared:

And, IMO, that is why they want someone who is on the edge and close to it. Bush was useful cuz he is so fucking dumb. Reagan and McHoover...the dementia is there IMO.

like Cheney, Cheney is the sick mastermind behind everything. He needs his a$$ to be arrested. Cheney clearly shows his disdain for all 3 branches of government and truly believes the powers only belong to the President, and he has made no secret how he feels about that.

When is the first debate, by the way?

Hmmmmm. I see.


















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the early evening is not a good time. They are totally exhausted from
trying so hard to remember things all day long. McCain will have no
cue cards or prompters. I think it will be important for Obama to
keep an air of "poor doddering old man" without putting him down.

I have had a grandparent who died of Alzheimers and another one who is currently 87, does not have Alzheimers or dementia but is still forgetful because, well she's 87.

Maybe he does, but you are not qualified to make that judgment. Even if you were a doctor (which I doubt), you still couldn't do it, unless you had personally evaluated him.

Yes, he's made a lot of gaffes, and I do wonder about his state of mind, but again, you cannot legitimately make that claim based solely on what you have seen and/or heard.

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but I'm not sure what it is. I wish they would play some clips of his answering questions at a younger age, and see if he was as taxed then with the basic facts all politicians should have passing knowledge of.

to see a fucking link !

I think he is just senile. Seriously, I do.

Symptoms;

Look for signs of memory loss and language difficulties. Is the person losing words, or forgetting the names of common objects? Has he or she forgotten how to do simple mathematics?

Watch out for confusion and loss of attention span. Is the person unable to focus on a normal conversation? Does he or she get mixed up when trying to perform basic tasks?


Monitor inappropriate behavior and impaired judgment. If the person begins to act inappropriately or significantly out of character in social situations, he or she may be showing signs of senile dementia.


Look out for mood changes, irritability or emotional agitation. Often, people in the early stages of senile dementia are aware that something is happening to them, and this can be both frightening and depressing.

Watch for physical coordination problems and physical confusion. People with senile dementia often forget how to do simple learned tasks that have been part of their daily life for many years.


Watch the person walk. Changes in gait are often symptomatic of senile dementia, although they can also be connected with other neurological conditions such as Parkinson's disease.

He definitely has something going on. It's amazing more people aren't talking about it.

Don't forget that melanoma often mestastasizes to the brain. The best approach is just to express concern.

but there is something seriously wrong with this man that was not observable a couple of years ago. My mom is her mid-80s and started showing serious signs of non-Alzheimer's dementia/confusion several years ago. Grampy is much older physically than his chronological age. He constantly loses the simple things as well as the more complex issues like Sunni/Shi'a. To the extent that he is not a well man, I feel sorry for him, and I think his unquestioning willingness to sell out every single thing he said in 2000 is clear and convincing evidence of serious mental deterioration.

If he had selected someone like, say, Dick Lugar as his VP, this would not be an issue. Lugar is a sane man. The chances that he would immerse the world in nukular holocaust 'cos Rambo Jeebus told him to do so are about as close to zero as anything can be. But he has given us Mooselini. She has a certain primitive reptile brain "intelligence," unfettered ambition and is without question both as dumb as a sack of hammers and crazier than a shithouse rat. This is, shall we say, not a good team to put into the most powerful positions in the world at a time of unparalleled political complexity.

Both of the people on the Repuke ticket should be institutionalized. Grampy in a quiet retirement home where he can see his family and watch the birdies, Palin in a straightjacket where she is chained to the wall and force fed Thorazine 22 hours a day for the rest of her life. She in completely insane by any definition that takes rationality into account.

Alzheimers. Hubby's dad had Parkinson's with brain degenerative symptoms that were similar to Alzheimers. But, I get your drift - he appears to be suffering from some type of brain degenerative disease.

of more bellicose saber rattling. There are also both Iran gaffes bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran, and the Start Iran Smoking program are both nuts.

Those are three statements that would have a responsible press brow beating you until you either left the trail or come up with a decent explanation.

I also refuse to even accept the possibility that the public would accept or listen to a President Mooseburger. Even the "powers that be" aren't that audacious or disconnected. They must realize that McShame has to last long enough to at least transition to her. This ticket is like a Twin Peaks "Election Special'.