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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:46 PM
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Who was the moron Democratic Strategist on CNN just now?
Kerry just gave a great speech and this idjit agrees with the GOP strategist that Kerry's campaign is in trouble. He has to say that on TV? Where do we get these friggin' people from?
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:48 PM
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1.  That's why the Corporate "News" network put's them on
Think Alan Colmes
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:55 PM
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2. Sounds like
Your run of the mill DU'er
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:00 PM
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4. Yeah, and the repercussions are just the same for
a message on DU or an appearance on CNN.:crazy:
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:57 PM
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3. CNN gets to pick them. Switch CNN off. You will feel better.
What good are they doing you? But you continue to fund them.
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:05 PM
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5. I heard him, too?
Isn't he a go-getter? Gee, couldn't he have said the Swift Boat stories were falling apart at the seams and were lies? Instead, he just said that they have been trouble for Kerry and the campaign was ill prepared.

I think the reported did better at a counter discussion that this guy.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:09 PM
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7. That comment may be true to some extent
but the campaign has moved on. BTW, who is the guy?
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:07 PM
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6. Josh Marshall says this is one of the maddening qualities many Dems have
They panic too early and think everything is going down the drain. And that includes some of our "strategists."
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:09 PM
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8. His name was Morris Reid, and I am outraged at his sorry performance.
You have to ask yourself why any Democratic strategist would not even address Miles O'Brien's characterization of Kerry's campaign as "somnolent" when John Kerry just finished a speech before the American Legion in Tennessee that was highly critical of George W. Bush's handling of the Iraq War during the Republican National Convention-- a somewhat unprecedent event, CNN had earlier claimed.

Mr. Reid then commenced to criticize the Kerry campaign for their slow response to the "Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth" smear campaign. All high profile Democrats should have been out front criticizing this smear and demanding that the news media not give these lying bastards credence! The major newspaper waited almost two weeks to expose their lies and major GOP/Rove connections.

It makes you wonder if someone in the Democratic party is trying to sabotage the Kerry campaign. Why on earth would the Democratic party allow someone like Morris Reid to trash our candidate? I surely hope the DNC did not send him to represent the party or our candidate.

Also, earlier on CNN, Charlie Rangel, failed to deny that he had criticized John Kerry for wind surfing this week. NO ONE complained that Dubya was down at his ranch in Crawford the entire week of the Democratic convention!

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michigandem2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:19 PM
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10. i saw that comment
about his windsurfing in nantucket..I was thinking "SO THE FUCK what"
you wanna make fun of someone relaxing...40% of the presidency has been a vacation these last 4 years....gimme a fucking break..these guys are just horrible...
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DemMother Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:22 PM
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13. Another embittered ex-Gove staffer
From talkingpointsmemo to democrats "All I can say is, really, really, shut up and calm down."

Amen.

more:
"Again, this is not a Pollyannaish post. The Kerry campaign needs to get control of the debate back from the president. And they need to start hitting much harder. But Democrats themselves need to be a lot tougher and hardier about the cycles campaigns go through. And that applies to self-serving Democratic 'insiders' too."

Really, the back-biting and self-serving crap out of the mouths of some of these ex-Gore people and other "insiders" is getting to be too much.

The rest of the post is good--

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/

I wish the "Democrats" complaining about Kerry would spend as much time working as they do whining; make as many calls to undecided voters as they do to the Kerry campaign.



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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:15 PM
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9. When was the "great speech"? I must've missed it.
You certainly can't be referring to the limp load of rhetoric to the American Legion where he still supports the invasion of Iraq.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:22 PM
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11. You can't be serious...
Edited on Wed Sep-01-04 01:22 PM by unfrigginreal
if you think that Kerry can denounce the invasion now then you're missing more than a clue. His only avenue for attack now is the Bushies handling of the Iraq fiasco, and he kicked the shit out of the Bushies over their handling in this speech. I was pleased to see him at least get Iraq back into the discussion because it's a sure loser for Bush.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:29 PM
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14. Why can't he "denounce the invasion now"?
A couple hundred thousand protestors showed a bit of courage and did so. What's holding our hero back? Why is it "his only avenue"? If he had the courage to renounce his vote for the war he could go after Bush instead of pussyfooting around it.

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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:35 PM
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16. Did you miss the statement that Kerry made to the effect of...
"I'd do it again" regarding his vote? I'm not happy with his answer but one thing is certain, it took away any possibility of him admitting that the vote was a mistake. I'd rather feel good about him being in the WH Jan. 20, than feel good about him making a statement that would only serve to get him beat and change nothing.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:39 PM
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19. Hell no, I didn't miss that incredibly stupid statement.
I hope that he wins. I'll vote for him with the aid of an extra-strength nose clamp, but he's got to start telling the truth and quit rationalizing everthing he's said or done.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:22 PM
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12. Why do you continue to lie about Kerry?

rhetoric to the American Legion where he still supports the invasion of Iraq.

A blatant lie.


But why? Why not tell the truth?



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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:31 PM
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15. Where's the lie? Read the speech.
In the speech he tells the audience that he would have made sure that the troops had more flak jackets, had more "international" support. What was he talking about, and exercise in Central Park?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:38 PM
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17. I already pointed it out. If you want to pretend to yourself, fine.
Edited on Wed Sep-01-04 01:53 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
I don't think you are fooling anyone who is not locked into the same preconceived false notion, however.

It is a lie to say that Kerry EVER, AT ANY POINT IN TIME voiced 'support for the invasion'.


Now, you could lie further, and say that promising I wouldn't put soldier's in harm's way without the equipment and body armor they need means the same thing as I support the invasion -- but all that does is make the dishonesty of your argument more transparent.


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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:44 PM
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20. You did? Where was that?
And, where is the "preconceived false notion"? He voted for the war. He still supports having our troops there. He has offered no realistic plan to get out.

To borrow a line, "just saying it's so doesn't make it so".
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:53 PM
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21. You and chimp should have lunch since
you have identical difficulties with some words with more than three letters. War you get. Authorization Resolution you apparently don't.

Authorization to go to war as a last resort does not equal a vote for war.

War equals war.

There was no vote for war.

If I give you a gun and say "I authorize you defend yourself with it" I am not saying, "Here, go over to your neighbors house and shoot his ass preemptively."
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 02:07 PM
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22. I like the way you summed it up.. that is exactly how it was and is.
The President..any President..even Bush* who I will never refer to as President should have the authority to defend the US. Most everyone in Congress gave Bush* that authority. If in fact we were forty-five minutes from a mushroom cloud then action should be taken. That was a lie just as everything they told Congress was a lie. Bush* was given authority to deal with a situation that was overblown and Bush* did not deal with it in the prescribed manner. That was not Kerry's fault. War was supposed to be the absolute last resort but Bush* made it the first resort and look where we are.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:39 PM
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18. Turn to the Democrats Press Conference on C-Span !
Take a deep breath and remember CNN is not our friend and they are not going to improve in this election cycle. Turn them off and cheat their advertisers of your attention
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