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carpe diem Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 02:26 AM
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Excellent Analysis of Racial Arsonist and Unethical Journalist Ron Fournier's
bullshit AP wishful thinking effort to influence the election with divisive, inflammatory racial spin.

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/ap%E2%80%99s-ron-fournier-racial-arsonist-and-unethical-journalist#comments

excerpt:

Fournier's article claims:

The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004 - about two and one-half percentage points...


40 percent of all white Americans hold at least a partly negative view toward blacks, and that includes many Democrats and independents...

More than a third of all white Democrats and independents - voters Obama can't win the White House without - agreed with at least one negative adjective about blacks...

Among white Democrats, one third cited a negative adjective and, of those, 58 percent said they planned to back Obama.


Let's think about that last sentence carefully. One third of white Democrats agreed with a negative adjective about African-Americans. But 58 percent of those supposed "racists" - a majority of them - are still voting for a particular African-American in specific. And that's supposed to be "bad news" for Obama's candidacy?

In fact, if we review the actual poll - rather than Fournier's spin - it provides very good news for those that want Obama to win.

In the real data from the AP poll, Obama's favorable-to-negative rating (54 percent favorable to 41 negative, or 13+) is better than McCain's (50 to 42, or 8+). And Obama towers over McCain among those that have a "very favorable" opinion of each candidate, with 30 percent to just 13 for McCain.

Obama leads this poll (which casts a net much wider than "likely voters" or even "registered voters"): Obama 40 percent to 35 for McCain. Bob Barr receives one percent support and Ralph Nader, 2 percent.

If you take away the undecideds, that's Obama 51.2 percent to McCain 44.8 percent with third party candidates getting the remaining four percent.

The poll also "pushes" the 18 percent of undecided voters and gets only teenaged numbers of them to declare. Factoring in those numbers, here are the poll's results, adjusted to included those pushed:

Obama: 42.9 percent

McCain: 38.2 percent

Barr: 1 percent

Nader: 2 percent.

Don't Know: 16.9 percent

Isn't that interesting? That even in the poll that Ron Fournier of AP spins to try and demonstrate that Americans are too racist to vote for Obama, the African-American is ahead by greater than the poll's claimed 2.1 percent margin of error!

See, kind readers: The poll itself - in its most important finding (the voter preferences for president) - doesn't back up Fournier's spin, and in fact refutes it.
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The whole breakdown is at the link and is worth time to read and the website is bookmarkable.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 02:35 AM
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1. They won't steal it this time but if they did, that's what they would use to set us apart
They'd want to say "oh, darn that racism" ... better luck next time.

Obama is going to kick ass in Iowa and Maine. Show me the "heavy African-American profile" there.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 02:53 AM
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4. And then they will say that DEMOCRATS, the so-called party of tolerance, were too racist
to elect a black man. They will blame it on the Democrats themselves. They will claim, oh no, it wasn't the fault of Republicans, 1/3 of Democrats are racist blah blah blah blah. The Republicans have been questioning the Democrats high support among blacks for years. This will be one thing they will say and use for the next 100 years: That the Democratic party was too racist to elect the first black presidential candidate. And sadly, there will be some black voters who will never get over it and who WILL blame the Democratic party.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 02:38 AM
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2. Sounds Like AP is "Push Polling" for the McAin't Campaign Now
Which is to be expected, since their honcho Mr. Fournier is on record as being "on their side".

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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 02:39 AM
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3. When they take the polls,
they should try to determine the percentage of white Americans who hold at least a partly negative view toward whites.

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 02:56 AM
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5. Funny how they didn't do that :( n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:33 AM
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6. I just sent that article to the following people
Josh Marshall talk@talkingpointsmemo.com
Andrew Sullivan andrew@theatlantic.com
Mark Ambinder marcambinder@theatlantic.com
Keith Olberman countdown@msnbc.com
Rachel Maddow rachel@msnbc.com
Eugene Robinson robinsong@washpost.com
Frank Rich frankrich@nytimes.com
E.J. Dionne Ignatiusd@washpost.com
Ed Schultz ed@edschultzshow.com
Randi Rhodes randi@novamradio.com
Stephanie Miller stephanie@stephaniemiller.com
Thom Hartmann thom@thomhartmann.com
Mike Malloy mike@mikemalloy.com
Steve Clemons steve@thewashingtonnote.com
Bbb Herbert bobherb@nytimes.com
Joe Klein http://www.time.com/time/letters/email_let...
Howard Fineman webeditors@newsweek.com
David Remnick (the New Yorker) david_remnick@newyorker.com
The New York Times Editors letters@nytimes.com
The Washington Post www.washingtonpost.com

as well the following Watchdog groups
American Journalism Review <editor@ajr.org>; Columbia journalism Review <editors@cjr.org>; Committee of Concerned Journalists <ccj@concernedjournalists.org>; FAIR <fair@fair.org>; Institute for Public Accuracy <dcinstitute@igc.org>; Journal of Mass Media Ethics <WilkinsL@missouri.edu>; media matters <mm-tips@mediamatters.org>;

and you should too!

That's how we bust Fournier's ass.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:36 AM
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7. I completely missed that that was written by Fournier who once applied for a position w/ John McCain
What a miserable yellow journalist he is.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 11:19 AM
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8. kick
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