After Obama crushes McBush and we have a filibuster proof senate, the Republicans in 2012 will ...

McCain headquarters.

I hope it's a somber night at all the local city, county, and state GOP HQs also.

The more somber for them the more blue balloons and cheering for us. So with the Obama/Biden win over McCain/Palin, I'd love to see Dr. Wulsin kick the crap out of Mean Jean Schmidt, and I'd like to see Hagan and Kleeb and Warner and Franken and Begich and a couple new Udalls etc in our Senate races, and several more house races as well -- especially Christine Jennings over that worthless rodent Vern Buchanan in Kathryn Harris' old district.

Then the Republicans will probably have to gather a circle of power broker types and invite new power brokers. Palin is sinking McCain at a rate even faster than McCain was sinking himself. The GOP zealot-types in St. Paul celebrated her as a flash of green but forgot that a flash of green occurs after sundown.

And the light is fading fast to the Republican rationale in 2008.

Some new blood and a new direction will be needed. The close proximity of "one of theirs" gave the fundie zealots a couple weeks' celebration but with a strong defeat in November, it is clear that the Republican Party will be sharing less of the Influence Pie with the nutbags from this point forward.

So an alley fight will ensue. Harsh diction and long-held resentments, etc. -- the whole works. The fundies may be shown the door by the Danforth reclaimants or the nutbag religionists may stomp out in self-important fury and form their own party of delusional kooks. The "moderate" Republicans are going to blame the nutbags for this defeat. It will likely take more than 4 years for the regrouping to sort out.

Obama wins two terms.

But seriously, over the last few days it really has started to feel like we might win this BIG, all over the country. Did you see George Will today? Using the word "fearful" to describe a McCain presidency. When long-time party faithful like him jump ship, you know it is going down.

And McCain/Palin are taking others down with them. It is beginning to look like Gordon Smith is going down here in Oregon. Kurt Schrader is going to hold Darlene Hooley's seat with ease.

If we get close to 60 in the senate, we will have a new green energy policy, universal health care, an infrastructure revitalization effort, a recovering housing market ... all by next summer.

But I don't think the wacko nutjobs will cede authority to the moderates. The latter will leave, and with any luck in 20 years the history books will have the Republican party sharing a chapter or two with the Whigs.

from afar in cheering Gordon Smith's exit. He's a compromised soul, pretending to be "liberal." Or something like that. In any case, I hope he loses and I won't miss him one iota.

You could be right on which faction bolts. Maybe it will be the moderates. The fundies had ruined it for the moderates ike Linc Chafee, and he left. So did Jim Jeffords. The fundies hate Danforth and I think Danforth knows the fundies are the devil's own messengers. There's going to be some harsh words and some hurt feelin's!

He's old and been around forever and has run twice but hasn't gotten the nomination. Of course Caribou Barbie will have been the VP candidate so she may have more insider cred than Alexander.

Mitt Romney is still a mormon and that just doesn't work with the fundies. Huckabee might've had a shot but Caribou Barbie is the new and improved Huckabee.

'religious republicans' and 'economic/security republicans'

Hi, grantcart. :hi:

The Bush Crime Family only wants to be in power when they can steal the country blind, like they did from 1980-1992 and have done 1000 times worse the last 8 years. And even with Obama in the White House and a majority in both houses of Congress, I doubt we'll be out of the woods financially within 4 years, as even Obama himself acknowledged on 60 Minutes tonight. Jeb's not going to waste his time.

Actually, the reason the Bush Crime Family is pulling out all the stops this time is because Poppy will more than likely be in Hell before 2016, and there will probably be some internal power struggle to take over the business. Chimpy's the eldest son, but he's a dumbass and a proven failure. Jeb's clearly Poppy's preferred successor, but can he run the family business from within the White House, or will he need another puppet..... like Moosealini. We already know she fits the Reagan/Quayle/Chimpy model of pliable idiot.

Ron Paul will probably run because there's still greed, but he won't succeed.

Even Bill Orally is mad about the necessary bailouts. He pretty much had an unspoken deal with the Republican Party that as long as they keep his taxes low and vote certain ways on some social issues, he'd support whatever screwed up foreign policy they presented. Now by adding on an extra $700 billion tax on the American people, the conservative base might start voting libertarian in the near future.

:shrug: