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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:01 PM
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McCain Commits GIGANTIC F%@# Up(!)
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 02:27 PM by ihavenobias
From John McCain's published article in the current issue of Contingencies magazine:

"...Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation..."

http://www.contingencies.org/

(Sorry if this was already posted but I didn't see it before today and it's a devastating quote.) EDIT TO ADD: Ok, I'm happy to report there is already an Obama ad on this topic posted here! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x195472

PS---What are you waiting for? Send out the following Mass Email to EVERYONE you know:
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:02 PM
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1. K&R
:kick:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:02 PM
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2. It is an ad already.
See videos.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:04 PM
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9. here is the ad
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:17 PM
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16. Obama was on that nugget like white on rice, like stink on a monkey.
:thumbsup:
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:26 PM
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22. Thanks. The funny thing is...
I actually K & R'd it before I watched it (because of the topic) and ended up creating this thread. Oh well, it's really important so the more exposure the better. I'll edit your link into my OP...

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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:24 PM
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21. Oh well, I *did* go out of my way to forewarn that it may already have been addressed in my original
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 02:25 PM by ihavenobias
post.

:)

i.e. (Sorry if this was already posted but I didn't see it before today and it's a devastating quote.)

I'm glad there's an ad about it. The funny thing is, I actually K & R'd it before I watched it (because of the topic).

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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:02 PM
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3. It's been posted, but it's a welcome change from the Clinton threads...
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:02 PM
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4. its worth a second go -- good luck
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:03 PM
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5. I wish more DUers cared about this - we could BURY McCain with this.
We could effectively KILL his chances of winning with this nugget. Thanks for posting this.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:03 PM
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6. Obama's already talking about it. They already have an ad up about it. n/t
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:13 PM
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14. Obama Campaign should make an Ad CAMPAIGN out of it, not just 1 ad.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:28 PM
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23. I agree.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:03 PM
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7. Krugman broke that quote on Friday on Rachel's show. I don't
know if any other m$m has gone there.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:03 PM
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8. Oh, this IS good!
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:05 PM
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10. This was in the GOP platform
From my thread:

" if you look at the GOP platform (pg 44), the essential healthcare "plan" is to do nothing specific. If you read carefully, they want to "improve people's access" to healthcare but they don't really say what that means. Then they talk about protecting health care providers from "frivolous lawsuits" (in other words, they'll drive down costs by taking away your ability to sue for malpractice); they talk about "interstate competition" (pg 40) meaning they will try to drive down cost by taking away the local aspect to healthcare and allow families and groups to purchase health insurance across interstate lines. This inevitably means that the larger HMOs will be able to provide cheaper rates (if not better service) and smaller carriers will be put out of business. This will result in a consolidation of healthcare in the hands of a few conglomerates (can you see the mergers and the takeovers?) with fewer choices for consumers and, certainly, higher costs in the long run as there will be LESS competition, not more. "

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7139785
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:16 PM
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15. When repigs start talking about "choices"
we're screwn.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:49 PM
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25. It almost guarantees fewer choices.
Worst possible thing for health care.
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notsoaveragejoe Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:05 PM
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11. Its over
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:06 PM
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12. McSame's plan to tax our health benefits is revolting.
Privatizing health insurance even more than it is now is crazy

and

his plan to tax the health benefits that fewer and fewer of us are lucky enough to receive is really cruel.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:09 PM
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13. His wranglers need to update his talking points...
This would have fit right into the rest of their bullshit a month ago.

All it would take is one massive slip up like this in a world scene and he could cause serious problems! He should NOT be conducting business on behalf of any state, let alone the whole damn country!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:18 PM
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17. Oooops.... foot caught in your mouth again, John?
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 02:18 PM by fascisthunter
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matthewf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:20 PM
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18. k&r
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:23 PM
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19. K&R! nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:23 PM
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20. K&R! nt
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:41 PM
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24. K&R!
Make 'em deal with The Truth! Good work! :dem: :dem: :dem:
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kmdemqueen Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 02:59 PM
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26. Thanks that is very interesting
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 03:11 PM
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27. WHERE ARE THE COMMERCIALS WITH MCSAMES WORDS ON THIS!?!?!!?!??!?!?!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 04:55 PM
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28. K&R fo' sho'
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 05:35 PM
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29. I hope this bites him in the ass. k+r n/t (kr'd the ad, too)
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 05:36 PM
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30. K&R!
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 06:47 PM
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31. k&r n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:29 PM
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32. K & R and SENT
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:03 PM
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33. Yeah, to his health. k*r
He can pay cash, which is good for him.

I guess all those middle class people making $3.0 mil a year can do the same if they save.

What a jack ass!
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progressiveforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:08 PM
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34. This was his major F*(k up to date
except maybe for Governor Bubbles
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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:01 AM
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35. Timing is everything in life John.
These comments should make their way into the corporate media.

GOBAMA
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:02 AM
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36. Nice!
This needs to be shouted from the rooftops, as it all goes to McCain's judgement and ideology. If he had his way, your health insurance would be going the way of Lehman Brothers as we speak.
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hasssan1 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:28 AM
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37. Obama must Air that ad every day in OH , FL , VA and other battlegrounds
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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:06 PM
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38. Give me a bib!
I'm salivating, thinking about the upcoming debate!
=D,
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:10 PM
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39. McCain IS a
GIGANTIC F%@# Up!!!
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:18 PM
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40. i saw that on TV last night - Olbermann?
GREAT catch, and I too hope Obama will exploit this one to the max!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 01:36 PM
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41. Sounds like McCain wants to do for health insurance what he did to banking?
He just screwed the pooch on that one.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:01 PM
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42. it would be a disaster
first of all, it is open. Secondly, states individually regulate "definitions" used in health insurance, so that insurance is not portable for individuals, and so that employers have a greater "right" to your medical records and body fluids than you do.

It would benefit the laboratories for sure as everyone was scrambling to insure people who were zero casualty risk, kind of like pre employment drug screening catches less than 1 percent of professionals tested, yet the labs get paid for 100% of testing delivered, and voluntary prescriptions and medical conditions given are not subject to medical records privacy protections due to the "affiliate company" clause.

Wonder who's making money there?

McCain could do everyone a favor and not drop dead before the election. We need a bumbling idiot and a mendacious veep-nominee to be the flag bearers for everything that is wrong with republicans.

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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 01:32 PM
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43. K&R Still relevant!
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