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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:15 AM
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I just saw a clip of Bill Clinton from last night... sensible and widely applauded answer...
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 05:38 AM by wyldwolf
:shrug:

Maybe you just didn't like his tie?
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:29 AM
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1. do you mean night---name?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:39 AM
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2. oops, yeah... too early
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:05 AM
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3. 1
:):):hi:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:06 AM
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4. Revisionism is not the sole property of the GOP?
:rofl:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:56 AM
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8. as you demonstrate daily
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:12 AM
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5. How many threads on the Letterman show do we really need? Chris Rock nailed it.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:56 AM
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7. no, Chris Rock is a comedian
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:06 AM
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10. Yes, it's Satire. Another reason why Jon Stewart is highly respected by those who seek the truth...
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 07:07 AM by ShortnFiery
for speaking truth to power via SATIRE. :patriot:

You see, in the M$M conglomerate run by a few bloated executives who see their bottom line increasing with a GOP Executive Branch, ONLY cold, hard SATIRE can slide by without "watered down" filtering or PsyOps disinformation.

GOD BLESS SATIRE. :evilgrin:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:17 AM
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11. still running from the "corporate" challenge...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:19 AM
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13. I think you know what I think of YOUR "corporate challenge" - stop changing the subject. eom
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:21 AM
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14. I do know. You can make the echo chamber charge but can't support it with facts
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:45 AM
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16. Let it go, I won't bite.
:hi:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:46 AM
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17. nah... too much fun watching you run from it
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:49 AM
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19. You are shameless. You change the subject to FLEE from the immorality of corporatist democrats. eom
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:57 AM
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26. All I'm asking is for you to prove your "corporatist" charge.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:09 AM
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32. How bout this?
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 08:10 AM by ShortnFiery
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?articleId=4706

A Business-Led Party

Freeing Democrats from being, well, Democrats has been the Democratic Leadership Council's mission since its founding 16 years ago by Al Gore, Chuck Robb, and a handful of other conservative, mostly southern Dems as a rump faction of disaffected elected officials and party activists. Producing and directing the DLC is Al From, its founder and CEO, who's been the leader, visionary, and energizing force behind the New Democrat movement since Day One. A veteran of the Carter White House and Capitol Hill, where he'd worked for Louisiana Representative Gillis Long and served as executive director of the House Democratic Caucus, From helped build the Committee on Party Effectiveness, a forerunner of the DLC, in the early 1980s. To From, a key rationale for establishing the DLC in those days was to protect the Democrats' eroding bastion in the South against mounting Republican gains, and indeed one of the DLC's chief projects in the 1980s was to create and promote the Super Tuesday primary across the South, aimed at enhancing the clout of southern Dems in selecting presidential candidates.

Privately funded and operating as an extraparty organization without official Democratic sanction, and calling themselves "New Democrats," the DLC sought nothing less than the miraculous: the transubstantiation of America's oldest political party. Though the DLC painted itself using the palette of the liberal left--as "an effort to revive the Democratic Party's progressive tradition," with New Democrats being the "trustees of the real tradition of the Democratic Party"--its mission was far more confrontational. With few resources, and taking heavy flak from the big guns of the Democratic left, the DLC proclaimed its intention, Mighty Mouse–style, to rescue the Democratic Party from the influence of 1960s-era activists and the AFL-CIO, to ease its identification with hot-button social issues, and, perhaps most centrally, to reinvent the party as one pledged to fiscal restraint, less government, and a probusiness, pro–free market outlook.

It's hard to argue that they haven't succeeded.

Today's is not your father's Democratic Party. Though the dwindling chorus of party progressives provides counterpoint, today's Democrats are proud to claim the mantle of budgetary moderation. They oppose President Bush's $2-trillion tax-cut plan not by arguing mainly for more spending on health, education, and welfare, but because it risks the new sacred cause of paying off the national debt. They are the party of increased military spending, the death penalty, the war on drugs, and partnership with religious faith. They are the party of Ending Welfare As We Know It, the party of The Era of Big Government Is Over.

--------------------------------

Further, let's ENCOURAGE everyone HERE to go to the Clintonian DLC website and judge for themselves?


http://www.dlc.org/

You and your bully-boy tactics. They're corporatist crones wrapped up in a pseudo-patriotic flag.

The Clintonian DLC has moved our party so far to the right it is bordering on moderate republicanism.

ENOUGH, the people are phasing these jerks out - The proof will be at the polls. ;)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:12 AM
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33. ok, you've shown they take corporate money, but the challenge was to show...
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 08:14 AM by wyldwolf
... that non-DLC dems DON'T - that there is some difference between DLC Dems an non-DLC Dems (call it the DNC, if you'd like.)

(but your source, of course, is completely biased. "freeing Democrats from being Democrats" is just more of the same far left political revisionist-speak.)
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:50 AM
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21. one who compared hunting to dogfighting no less.
so really... not the best analysis in the world.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:01 AM
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28. that's for sure. It was a cheap shot, taken to cause a reaction..
If Bill had walked back out and said, "Chris, do you want to discuss the statement you just made," Rock would have just stammered and stuttered.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:14 AM
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34. Yeah, Rock should refer to "aerial hunting of wolves" from small planes and hellicoptors as
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 08:18 AM by ShortnFiery
The Sport of Cowards.

Yes, Chris Rock should have used "Aerial Hunting" as his comparison - on that, he gets a gig from me too. ;)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:22 AM
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37. senseless
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:48 AM
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6. I loved that tie
Thought it looked sharp.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:01 AM
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9. Which Answer? That Repealing Glass-Steagall Was A Grand Idea? n/t
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:18 AM
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12. Personally, I like how he saved his best political punches for primary season
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 07:20 AM by BeyondGeography
:thumbsup:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:35 AM
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15. Chris Rock saw his appearance for what it was....

He's made a career out of seeing through other people's bullshit.


The question is.... why are you going to such great lengths to defend the undefensible.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:48 AM
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18. LOL
"defend the undefensible."

True believers are so cute.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:50 AM
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22. "True believers are so cute."
Yes, Bill Clinton's de-regulated CONGLOMERATE M$M may feature this on a special segment to keep the Presidential Election close enough for the GOP to steal once again. Yeah, sure. :(
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:56 AM
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25. "True believers are so cute" - especially with their "corporatist" comedy routine...
...especially cute is how they put "$" in places of "S" in some words and how they make bold proclamation that they can't possibly back with facts.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:02 AM
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29. It really i$ adorable.
:eyes:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:04 AM
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30. it's ab$olutely cla$$ic!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:17 AM
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35. Enjoy now, because you're on the way O U T. Populism is making a comeback.
Greed is NOT GOOD.

No mas ... ENOUGH! ;)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:21 AM
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36. then why is it that ...
... in 2006, over half the new house seats won by Dems were DLC and blue dogs? And why is it that the top 4 Senate seats we'll win this year are DLC?
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:49 AM
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20. why bother? its not like the anticlintons here can think for themselves.
:hi:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:51 AM
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23. yep. of course. no one but the devoted Clintonites can think for themselves
and any criticism whatsoever of the Clintons is undeserved as well as mindless. yep, that's gotta be it.
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TooRaLoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:54 AM
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24. Not anti-Clinton. Anti-mediocre-responses, thankyouverymuch. nt
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:59 AM
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27. that's so true. They parrot what they hear others say, then when you ask them for some facts...
.. they either scurry away or try to make asking for proof some kind of offense.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:04 AM
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31. You nailed it
They can't think for themselves.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:26 AM
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38. Here,
you'll like this (don't be afraid of the link, it's to a Clinton doozy).



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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:32 AM
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39. ummm... the link doesn't state what you claim it does
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