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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:28 PM Original message |
Unfortunately, Obama is in a lose-lose here. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. You are wrong......because you don't seem to get the back story |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. What backstory? |
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mscuedawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. Maybe they mean the fact that Obama made the first step this morning w/a call to McCain |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. Suspend campaigns, but not the debate |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't see it that way because it's just attitude..mccain |
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Alter Ego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. MSNBC, at least, has realized that Obama was the initiator |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Wow, so McLame was just praying for an opening to cancel the debate |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. Simply propose to have the debate IN WASHINGTON instead of Mississippi..... |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. Agreed. And Obama ought to go one further: |
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ramapo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Yes...call his bluff |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
62. And switch it from FP to Economy. |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's certainly a tough position for Obama. |
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marew (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
7. Disagree strongly. |
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mscuedawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. ::Cringing:: but I agree...just posted this somewhere else... |
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ericgtr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
8. I disagree this is an opportunity to slam it out of the park |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
9. I think he should go along with McCain and cancel it |
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Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
60. That's total bs. Neither topic is likely to help McCain. That's why he's so terrified to debate. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
61. With McCain foreign policy gaffes, I don't see much difference |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
10. The debate isn't "politics"--one of those two men are going to be President, and |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. To you it isn't. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. No--the debates aren't mere politics, it's not the Saddleback forum-- |
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gblady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. agree.... |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
68. this a financial 9/11 to them |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. That's true--the GOPers really want a bailout, but want it THEIR way--just give |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. He can give a speech explaining that presidents can do more than one thing at a time. |
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alsame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. I agree. Obama should point out that being President means |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. Utter bullshit. |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. Disruptive |
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oviedodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
14. THe only way IMHO is to say we could do both. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
15. Nah, all he has to do is say McCain is just pulling a political stunt which is exactly what this is. |
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Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
63. Yep. It seems like a win-win for Obama. |
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budkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
17. He needs to say "We need this debate!" |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:31 PM Original message |
Obama should call it what it is, another CHEAP POLITICAL STUNT |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
73. hm....to bailout his friends on Wall Street. |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
18. He'll have to find some third option. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
19. Set up an empty chair for the gutless wonder. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
21. Trash. |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
22. No. McCain looks like he's afraid or hiding something. /nt |
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PermanentRevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
24. I think the best idea is to turn it into a weakness for McCain |
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LSparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
25. I disagree ... He can say he can do both and express disappointment |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. I disagree |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
27. NOW is the perfect time to debate! |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
28. Right now, at my desk, I am doing |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
29. I wish that Obama could just |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
30. 1864 |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. We're talkin' debates, not the election. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
70. We're talking about suspended campaigns |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
32. no he isnt. ye of NO faith. this is another for obama to kick ass. mccain is a fuck up |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
33. you don't look "led" by someone too chickento show up for a debate |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
35. I don't disagree, McCain knew what he was doing here |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. Fraid not. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
38. Obama needs to dig in his heels and call bullshit |
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progressive_realist (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
39. Suggest switching the topic to economics. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
40. Bullcrap. This is a key time to debate. Besides, as President, you must multi-task. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
42. McCain won't refuse to attend |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
45. I agree DI.... this puts Obama in a bit of a pickle... |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
46. I dunno. The "debates" have been going on for almost 2 years now. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
47. I completely agree with you. |
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FloridaGrl (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
49. I disagree |
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godai (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
50. Just DELAY the debate to Saturday. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. We can't allow Congress SHOVE this half-baked bill down our throats, can't do that by Friday. |
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godai (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. High probability of a vote by Friday. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. This is truly insane. More insane than the Patriot Act. If this is so important, we must take ... |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
51. This country can ... needs to have both the debate and this bill. nt |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Exactly, REMEMBER that both "the IWR" and Patriot Act" were also *forced upon us* in short order. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
52. It's too bad John McCain.. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
53. Actually McCain looks like a chicken--looking for a way out. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. To you and I he looks like one...but what bout the independent, or average dumbass voter? |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
54. Obama can simply offer to buy for McCain the best makeup that money can buy. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
55. Pull a republican: Agree to postpone and also call McCain a coward for postponing |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
59. No flames. I think he needs to come out with the exact truth about how things went down. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
65. There is a way out... |
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Cosmic Charlie (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
67. The Debate is on, Baby!! |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
69. Fuck these "skip it" ratings....I vote "Must Read"....nt |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
72. can O simply |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
74. Here.... Learn Something |
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gal (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
75. He needs to continue the debate. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
77. I'm missing how and why both isn't the option |
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