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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:38 AM
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The Undecided Voters
How in the world can anyone who is a registered voter be undecided at this point of a presidential campaign? Especially this campaign?

I have come to the conclusion (and I'll probably get some flack over this) that any person who hasn't made up their mind who they are going to vote for by now is a moron. Pure and simple.

What issues haven't been covered that push undecided's buttons? Or don't they pay attention to the issues? Or politics altogether?

This has been a highly charged political season, as are all election years. But there has been an extra urgency during this election year. The electorate is equally polarized and the undecideds, which there ARE fewer of this year seem to be getting the lions share of the attention from the candidates. All of which pays a little added importance to the label of being undecided.

So, is that it? Do they relish the limelight? Do they crave for the candidates to lavish attention on them?

Or is it that undecideds just have a hard time making decisions? Do they spend an hour each morning trying to decide what socks to wear? Is it possible that undecideds are ambivilent about their world and find it impossible to take a stance on any issue? Okay, let's for a moment assume that undecideds ARE paying attention to the news and both presidential campaigns, in particular...

Have they not formed an opinion on this war by now? And if they have, have they not had ample information to decide who they might align themselves with on this particular issue?

How about the economy?

What about taxes?

How about social programs?

The environment? And so on.

If you have been paying attention to the news, I don't see how you can still be neutral at this point. To still be undecided is certainly no virtue. It exposes one as having their head buried in the sand. That's something only a moron would do.

Joe Fields

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volosong Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:44 AM
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1. Believe it or Not, There are Undecided Voters
Or at least that is what they claim.

Maybe they would be less undecided if they would question Mr. Bush on the following:


THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW MR. BUSH...

1. Why is it that you claim to be a friend of veterans and yet have proposed so many cuts to programs benefitting veterans including the closure of some V.A. hospitals?
2. If you believe Sen. Kerry's military service was "honorable" and something "about which he should be proud," then why do you refuse to specifically condemn the Swift Boat Veterans? Aren't values more than something to which one gives lip service?
3. Former Sen. Max Cleland left half of his body in Vietnam. Yet when he came to your ranch with a letter signed by 9 other Congressional war heroes, neither you nor any of your immediate aides had the courtesy to accept the letter. Why?
4. The almost 3,000 victims of the WTC attacks did not die for politicians or political parties. How do you justify using images and emotions related to that tragedy for political gain?
5. You are quoted as having said, "One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures." Is that why you continued to read "My Pet Goat" for almost 17 minutes after Andrew Card informed you that the US was under attack? Why wasn't the security of America more important than reading a kiddy book?
6. Since you say Sen. Kerry's Vietnam service was honorable and something of which to be proud, do your comments also apply to Kerry's medals? Do you endorse members of the RNC mocking military medals by wearing "purple heart bandaids" at the convention?
7. Is it not true that you Mr. President have flip flopped on more issues than Senator Kerry such as the 9/11 Commission; on calling for a UN vote on Iraq; on creation of the Dept. of Homeland Security; on a Constitutional amendment on gay marriage; on use of the military for "nation building;" on the issue of tax credits for hybrid automobiles; on extending the assault weapons ban; on steel tariffs; on spending the Social Security surplus; on the patient's right to sue; on the Federal Government's position on tobacco buyout; on disarmament incentives to North Korea; on lobbying OPEC; on the Condoleeza Rice testimony; on your pledge to issue regulation based on science; on the presence of WMD in Iraq; on restricting Free Trade; on the importance of capturing Osama Bin Laden; on mandatory caps on carbon dioxide emissions; on an investigation into intelligence failures in Iraq; summits in the Palestinian crisis; campaign finance; on providing financial support for the First Responders; on military benefits; on who was responsible for the "Mission Accomplished" sign; on the fingerprinting and photographing of Mexicans entering the US; on refusing to pass budget deficits; your positions on stem cells and human embryos; about your support of the Low Income Energy Support Program; your position on abortion; on racial profiling; on describing success of US objectives in Iraq.
8. Which of your recent comments about the war in Iraq and terrorism is really your belief: Mission accomplished, mission miscalculated, mission impossible, or most recently, mission possible?
9. Can you explain why $50 million allocated to investigate the Columbia Shuttle disaster, yet only $3 million was allocated to investigate 9-11?
10. Your tax cuts have been described as "WealthCare." Why did the top 1% income bracket receive a 32.4% tax cut while the lower 60% received only a 8.5% tax cut?
11. How do you justify the budget cuts for veterans benefits at precisely the time you are ramping up the military for permanent war?
12. Where are the WMD? Would you still go to war knowing that there were no WMD?
13. You used the term "catastrophic success.” What exactly does that mean?
14. Forty (40) per cent of homeless men are veterans. What are you doing about that situation? Isn't this inconsistent with your statement that, "Home is important. It's important to have a home." (Feb. 18, 2001).
15. 45 million people lack health coverage. Do you think basic health care is an American right? Health care costs have gone ballistic during your Administration. Why haven't you made health care more affordable?
16. "As you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say." (Oct. 28, 2003). When will the American people be able to ask you questions?
17. "I'm also not very analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things." (June 4, 2003). Recently, you admitted to making mistakes in Iraq. Don't you think being more analytical, deliberate, and "sensitive" to the intricacies of international politics might promote US success and national security?
18. You are quoted as saying, "When I take action, I'm not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be decisive." (Sept. 19, 2001). Then why are Americans still dying in Iraq almost one year after you declared "Mission Accomplished?"
19. Regarding the patient's bill of rights, you are quoted as having said on June 13, 2001: "I haven't had a chance to talk, but I'm confident we'll get a bill that I can live with if we don't." What did you exactly mean by that?
20. At the DNC Sen. Kerry challenged you to run a positive campaign on current issues. In 2001 you said, "It is time to set aside the old partisan bickering and finger-pointing and name-calling." Do you think your current campaign is consistent with those statements?
21. On Jan. 14, 2001 you said, "The California crunch really is the result of not enough power-generating plants and then not enough power to power the power of generating plants." Other than reciting the obvious. What does your Administration intend to do to make the US energy independent with renewable fuels that protect our ecosystem & pocketbook?
22. "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." (Sept. 29, 2000). Then why are millions of fish now dying in our lakes and streams? Why are there warnings in many states advising people not to ingest fish because of the dangers of mercury poisoning from industrial pollution?
23. When was the last time that you spoke before a crowd other than exclusively "invited guests?" Why do you feel attendance must be by invitation only?
24. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." (Aug. 5, 2004). Do you really believe that a counterproductive national policy is beneficial to the United States?
25. "The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself." ( Jan. 29, 2003). If that were true, why did we have to invade Iraq in the first place?
26. On Aug 22, 2002 you proposed deforestation as a means to combat forest fires. ("We need to understand if you let kindling build up and there's a lightning strike, you're going get yourself a big fire.") Isn't your support for deforestation actually pandering to logging and timber financial interests? If not, do you think that we should test your theory by setting experimental fires in certain areas of Texas?
27. "There's no cave deep enough for America, or dark enough to hide." ( Aug. 29, 2002). Is that really how you envision America and her future?
28. "This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating." (April 23, 2002). Is that really why you decided to invade Iraq?
29. "We're concerned about AIDS inside our White House--make no mistake about it." ( Feb. 7, 2001). How many cases of AIDS did you find in the White House? What are you doing for AIDS research?
30. "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric in nature because it is a product that we can find in our neighborhoods." (Dec. 20, 2000). Natural gas is not found naturally in most US neighborhoods. Does that make them non-hemispheric, and what are your proposals to solve the current energy crisis?
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:01 AM
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2. Actually I know some of these people
They always vote republican but they really don't like bush. Alot of my family is like this. I really have no idea what they will do when they get into that voting booth. I try to convince them to vote Kerry but they say they won't and they live in Nebraska anyways so who care? But I suppose there are alot of people like this in Ohio, Iowa, Missouri etc
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:03 AM
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3. Because, truth be told, the majority of those undecideds don't read
newspapers, rarely watch the news, and don't socialize with those outside their own small tight circles much. Most do not care as long as the paycheck is coming in...no matter how small, sadly. This is just my opinion.
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21winner Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:15 AM
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4. The time to decide for them
is 11/2. That's how they see it. I understand your frustration, also but its just like that. Put yourself in Kerry's camp now. They are thinking about it really hard.
Here is what I think,to win Kerry will have to batter Bush to defeat. Big John can do it and he will.

Oh and BTW John&John are doing a real grass root campaign and getting really great local coverage and winnig alot of votes.



http://www.johnkerry.com/index.html

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