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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 PM
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14 Dems have to change their votes in the next few moments
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 12:54 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
The voting will be held open for a while (like the Bush medicaid bill was)

14 Dems have to change their votes.

The market is rebounding right now because they figured out the vote is still open and are hoping for a turn-around.

(This debacle is largely Pelosi's fault, BTW. She really needs to be replaced.)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:54 PM
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1. WTF don't the rethugs have a responsibility to change their votes? nt
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:55 PM
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4. I am a Dem because I know rethugs don't care about America
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:05 PM
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20. So how do you feel about all the Dems who voted against it,
and there were/are dozens.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:09 PM
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29. I think they should all be voted from office.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:15 PM
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32. I think that they are heroes.
This bill should not pass unless Republicans vote for it. This is their messy arse the taxpayers are having to clean, caused because of their policies. It is not up to the Democratic Party to bail out an unpopular Republican President.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:04 PM
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13. Isn't Pelosi more likely to be able to twist a Democrat;'s arm than a Republican's?
Somebody has to change their votes--she's got mroe leverage with people in her own party, presumably.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:04 PM
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14. Isn't Pelosi more likely to be able to twist a Democrat;'s arm than a Republican's?
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 01:07 PM by marshall
Somebody has to change their votes--she's got more leverage with people in her own party, presumably.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:55 PM
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2. Pelosi's fault?
that woman can't take a shit without somebody ragging on it. This is Bushes fault and all Bushes fault.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:06 PM
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23. have to agree with you, Pelosi is doing a heck-of-a-job trying to keep this crap
from hitting the fan.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:55 PM
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3. Why Democrats? Have ALL the Pugs voted for? nt
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:57 PM
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7. The pugs hate America. Why expect them to do the right thing?
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:05 PM
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18. To save their own ass
It's come to Jesus time.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:56 PM
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5. This is not DEMOCRACY!
Call to order! :grr:
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:57 PM
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6. Pelosi needs to resign from her leadership position!
She is a loser.

She should never have allowed this to come to a vote without having enough Republicans committed and on record saying they would vote for it.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:58 PM
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8. Why, why, why on earth are Democrats supporting a bill brought by Bushco
when the Republicans themselves will not support it???? If they hold this vote open to arm twist members to change their votes I can officially say that I am ashamed to be a Democrat.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:03 PM
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12. This is NOT the same bill at all. You need to read the 2-1/2 page
bill that Bushco sent them and then read the actual bill that's being voted on.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:09 PM
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28. I KNOW that, but at it's heart it is still a $700 billion bailout bill.
That is how the American public views this in case you have not noticed.
This bill essentially came from Bushco and Republicans will not support it, but Democrats do?
If Democrats twist arms to pass the bill, they will own it and will reap what they have sown.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:17 PM
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33. You obviously don't understand how FUCKED we are if this doesn't happen.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:33 PM
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35. You, I have read more than a few opinions here at DU who agree with me
as well as the overwhelming comments I have heard everywhere else.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:35 PM
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36. A plurality of morons is still a bunch of morons.
Popularity =/= truth.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:54 PM
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37. Brilliant! When people don't agree with you, that means they are morons.
You sure fit in with the Bush "my way or the highway" philosophy. Excuse me while I update my ignore list.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:58 PM
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9. It wont happen.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:01 PM
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11. Why doesn't she call the House to order?!? eom
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:01 PM
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10. Alternatively she has the Democrate votes in her pocket and she
is showing how weak the Republicans are and paint them in a corner, and have Democrats save the day in the final inning.


Maybe she knew that the Republicans didn't have the votes anyway.


(Personally I would rather change Reid first but they are both second rate)
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:04 PM
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15. They know what just happened was a disaster
The outcome wont change no matter how long they leave this open.

People who voted Nay were aware of the high stakes.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:04 PM
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16. This isn't partisan. I'm getting pissed that she hasn't called this to ORDER.
This is STRONG ARMING not voting. :grr:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:09 PM
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26. This is the time when everyone is running around trying to gather
either support for the bill or against the bill. Nothing unusual about it.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:06 PM
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21. God, let's hope so.
This is some scary shit.
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cosmodem Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:05 PM
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17. Democrats acting like Republicans.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:05 PM
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19. Do we know who has voted no?
I don't know how my representative voted.
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:06 PM
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22. Last week, Pelosi said she wanted 50% Republican House approval
Is that no longer the case?
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:08 PM
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24. I would not change my vote. The GOP needs to take the blame for this
they should not let Bush and his terrible Administration off the hook
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:08 PM
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25. No, no one is to blame for this. This was a bad idea to begin with. eom
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:09 PM
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27. I would not change my vote. The GOP needs to take the blame for this
they should not let Bush and his terrible Administration off the hook
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:11 PM
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30. Jesus - stop punishing Bush by taking my retierment away already - seriously
I make very little and as of now have lost almost all I have invested for the last 10 years ($100 a month).
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:11 PM
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31. Jesus - stop punishing Bush by taking my retirement away already - seriously
I make very little and as of now have lost almost all I have invested for the last 10 years ($100 a month).
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:19 PM
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34. Who are the Dems voting against?
Are they liberals like Kucinich or Blue Dogs worried about reelection?
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