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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:34 PM
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Swiftvet leader O'Neil: "Bush an empty suit"
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...Mr. O'Neill is man of intriguing contradictions. He has extensive ties to prominent Texas Republicans, but he has told friends he considers Mr. Bush an "empty suit" who is unfit to lead the country, and says he voted for Al Gore in 2000, and for Ross Perot in 1996 and 1992.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/28/politics/campaign/28oneill.html?pagewanted=print&position=
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:36 PM
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1. Dont we got evidence that has O'Neil giving money to promient Texas Repubs
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:38 PM
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4. Right here.
A serial liar, or maybe he just likes a spirited contest.

O'Neill, John Mr
Houston, TX 77019
Clements O'Neill/AttorneySAND, DUANE (R)
House (ND 00)
FRIENDS OF DUANE SAND$200003/12/04 O'NEILL, JOHN E
HOUSTON, TX 77019
CLEMENTS O'NEILL PIERCE & NICKENSWAREING, PETER STAUB (R)
House (TX 31)
PETER WAREING FOR CONGRESS$100006/07/99 O'NEILL, JOHN E
HOUSTON, TX 77019
ATTORNEYIZZARD, RUDY (R)
House (TX 17)
TEXANS FOR RUDY IZZARD$25010/13/98 O'NEILL, JOHN E
HOUSTON, TX 77019
CLEMENTS O'NEILL PIERCE & NICKENSPERRY, BRENT CLARK (R)
House (TX 25)
PERRY FOR CONGRESS$100007/03/96 O'NEILL, JOHN E
HOUSTON, TX 77019
TEXAS REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE AKA TEXAS VICTORY 2002 (R)$250012/13/94 O'NEILL, JOHN E
HOUSTON, TX 77019
TEXAS REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE AKA TEXAS VICTORY 2002 (R)$250007/26/93 O'NEILL, JOHN E
HOUSTON, TX 77019
TEXAS REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE AKA TEXAS VICTORY 2002 (R)$100010/27/92 O'NEILL, JOHN E
HOUSTON, TX 77019BUSH, GEORGE (R)
President
BUSH - QUAYLE '92 PRIMARY COMMITTEE INC$100004/27/92 O'NEILL, JOHN E
HOUSTON, TX 77019
PORTER & CLEMENTSERVIN, CLARK KENT (R)
House (TX 29)
CLARK KENT ERVIN FOR CONGRESS$100003/31/92 O'NEILL, JOHN E
HOUSTON, TX 77019
PORTER & CLEMENTSERVIN, CLARK KENT (R)
House (TX 29)
CLARK KENT ERVIN FOR CONGRESS$100010/07/91 O'NEILL, JOHN E
HOUSTON, TX 77019SHINE, HUGH D (R)
House (TX 11)
FRIENDS OF HUGH D SHINE U S CONGRESS$40010/31/90 O'NEILL, JOHN E
HOUSTON, TX 77019SHINE, HUGH D (R)
House (TX 11)
A TRIBUTE TO RONALD REAGAN$100010/31/90

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=HOUSTON&st=TX&last=o%27neill&first=john
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:47 PM
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10. very interesting
thank you, hes a liar.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:49 PM
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11. IOW he did not vote for Gore in 2000
the Perot thing I can believe.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:58 PM
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13. He actually told Matthews, "I'm not a Texas Republican."
"Where do you live?"

"Houston, Texas."
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:59 PM
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14. I could believe Perot for '96
but I have a hard time believing that for 92 because I think I saw 1000 to Bush-Quayle relection.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 06:19 PM
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24. Yep you did
O'NEILL, JOHN E
HOUSTON, TX 77019 BUSH, GEORGE (R)
President
BUSH - QUAYLE '92 PRIMARY COMMITTEE INC $1000 04/27/92

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renotyme Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:56 PM
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12. exception that proves the rule
exception: bush is an empty suit (true)
rule: john o'neill tells nothing but vulgar lies
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:36 PM
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2. Better an empty suit then a serial liar
So Mr. O'Neil, were you in Cambodia or not?


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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:38 PM
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3. one can be both. eom
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:40 PM
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6. Those SB guys are so in love with war they were pissed that John Helped
to end it.

They love misery, pain, and death...gatta be, their actions speak volumes.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:40 PM
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5. what a schmuck...
I heard somewhere...I think it was here at DU...about O'Neill when he took command of a swift boat he shot up another swift boat...something like that...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:44 PM
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7. What the Hell did these guys ever do to heal, help lessen the pain
for the Nation?

They happen to think the Warrior Nation is the only route to take... Look to all other Nations of the Past with a military bent to see how long they lasted...

and if History has been kind to them....

Bush had better start reading HISTORY....it repeats itself if we don't take the steps to avoid.
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Memekiller Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:44 PM
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8. Pure crap...
Read and marvel out how they bend over backwards not to come to the obvious conclusion that he lied.

"Mr. O'Neill... is known in the Houston legal community for a near-photographic memory and an ability to master complex facts... Yet the book he co-authored against Mr. Kerry, "Unfit for Command," is riddled with inconsistencies and differences with the official record."

Gee, that is a contradiction. Why does Mr. Photographic memory get the facts wrong?

Check out the following:


The following notarized letter was sent to the FEC today calling for an investigation of illegal campaign contributions to Republicans by John O'Neill's law firm.



http://www.whoslying.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=600&Itemid=2



Office of General Counsel

Federal Election Commission

999 E Street, NW

Washington, DC 20463
(800) 424-9530





To whom it may concern:



I am writing to inform you of possible illegal campaign contributions given to Republican candidates by the law firm Clements O’Neill, Pierce, Wilson & Fulkerson. On the August 17th edition of Special Report with Brit Hume, one of the law firm’s partners, John E. O’Neill, was asked about more than $14,000 the Center for Responsive Politics documented him giving to Republican candidates. O’Neill responded that “about half of them were mine” and later said “I simply didn’t give them.”



On the same show, John O’Neill said his law partner Edward J. O’Neill probably gave those donations. It simply defies belief that seven different people on seven different occasions could have mistakenly transcribed the name “Edward J. O’Neill” as the exact name of one of his law partners. Whoever gave this money would have had to have done so under the name “John E. O’Neill”. As I understand it, donating money using someone else’s identity is a clear violation of federal election law.



If John O’Neill’s name appears on any of the original checks or paperwork for a donation he did not personally make, it would be proof of a crime and warrant an investigation.



Sincerely,









Dylan Otto Krider

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:46 PM
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9. If he wasn't an empty suit...
those rich guys couldn't use him like a handpuppet.....

Hell, the country came under attack and nobody even PRETENDED they wanted to ask him what to do.....
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:04 PM
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15. Disinformation. He's pretending to be credible. Maybe his dog believes him
Maybe not.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:40 PM
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16. back to the top!
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:44 PM
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17. i'm hesitant to believe this
o'neill canNOT be trusted. this sounds more like a ploy to defang him, thus making his case against kerry more credible.

he's no doubt a bush schill.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 06:05 PM
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20. I don't undertsand that logic
please explain.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 06:15 PM
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23. with word out that o'neill doesn't even
like bush that much, that gives more credibility to his "cause" to show kerry for a fake and "unfit" for command, b/c people will say "see, it's not a political thing, he doesn't even like bush."

i'm just saying, i think this is a political ploy. o'neill absolutely cannot be trusted.

and he is NO doubt doing this to get bush re-elected.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:46 PM
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18. This guy is hilarious! If Kerry wins, he'll get his own talk show
O'Neill has chutzpah, you gotta give him that much. To lie halfway convincingly without the slightest courage of one's convictions, well, that takes talent.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:47 PM
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19. They have a lot in common..
John O'Neil is an empty suit also..
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 06:13 PM
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21. Who cares what this guy says
He cannot be trusted - period!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 06:15 PM
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22. Exactly. Read thread from post #4. eom
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