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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:02 PM
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LOL. Pundits don't believe the new poll numbers!!
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 05:04 PM by sparosnare
They've spent months shoving numbers down our throats, propping up polls numbers like they're the word of God. Telling us over and over how close things are - using polls as evidence the candidates are neck and neck. "It's a horse race!"

Now that there's an obvious shift towards Obama, these same polls are suddenly not reliable. MSNBC self-appointed numbers guru Chuck Todd just doesn't believe that the current polling for Obama in swing states is accurate. He seems to be in shock over what he's seeing.

So which is it Todd? Are the polls reliable or not??

Too funny!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:03 PM
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1. Chuckie "T"'s bias is showing.....
Can't he find some outlier that will bolster his narrative?

How are the "hard working Whites" doing? Did they say?
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:04 PM
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2. The only numbers Fuck Todd cares about
Are the numbers in his bank account.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:05 PM
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3. how long did it take
for Chuck Todd's "women are FLOCKING to Palin" narrative to be disproven, two days?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:06 PM
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4. Ha! He isn't talking that way now. Or about Obama's working class white 'problem'.
There isn't one. ;-)
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:07 PM
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5. Uggh... I saw Chuck Fraud's denial.
:eyes: He only believes a poll if McPlain is winning.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:10 PM
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6. Chuck Todd's afternoon conversation
Chuck says: "Tom these numbers look really bad, polls from multiple sources are putting Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Minnesota out of reach. Ohio, Nevada, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado are all leaning Obama if not already safe. How the hell can I spin this pile of shit into a close race?"

Tom says: "Use old polls, you want a job don't you?"
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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:10 PM
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7. The only polls they believe...


are the ones showing Obama trailing against "hard working Americans!"
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:23 PM
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22. and if McNuts wins...there won't be any working Americans !
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:11 PM
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8. Ah, the old "those state polls don't count" argument.
I suppose it was only a matter of time.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:12 PM
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10. He actually said the are "historically unreliable" -
we (viewers) shouldn't take them too seriously. :hi:
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:11 PM
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9. They stand to lose millions in ad revenue if it's not close to the wire.
If Obama keeps rising the next media meme will be "Is Obama peaking too soon?"

Bank on it.
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:15 PM
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12. Oh, they're just itching to roll that one out
As soon as McCain shows any kind of a gain, it'll be nothing but "Obama's peaked too soon!" 24-7.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:12 PM
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11. Polls only matter when they show a close race, and when they don't, they
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 05:15 PM by wienerdoggie
should be discounted, because then they don't fit the narrative. Because there must be a close race. It must be down to the wire. The American people must be divided, torn, over this decision.
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:16 PM
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13. He Is One of the Few
That has not moved some of the northern industrial swing states like Pa, Mi and Wi to Obama. I am always surprised how red his map is and how close things are compared to some of the online tracking sites like Real Clear Politics or fivethirtyeight.com

Yet he stuck with Florida and NC LONG after they started trending Obama as red before he moved them to toss up.

I have never understand how they go RED with a 2 pt lead for McCain but stay toss up when Obama is up 5 or 6.
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Schulzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:17 PM
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14. Not surprised. NBC had Michigan tied last week.
Other polls had Obama up 8-13.
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notaboutus Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:17 PM
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15. I've come to expect nothing less from MSNBC
Saying anything positive about Obama is not gonna happen on their watch.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:17 PM
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16. Schmuck Todd needs to shut his facial oriface and go to Fox with the other rejects
"Oh but we worked so hard to get McBush elected... waaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHHHHHH!"
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:18 PM
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17. By November 4th they won't know what hit 'em!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:18 PM
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18. Think they might actually be speechless?
That's what I want to see. :D
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:19 PM
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19. Tongues completely tied! heh heh
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:20 PM
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20. Well, they are correct......
the polls are wrong.....Barack is winning by much more than they are showing.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:21 PM
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21. Fire this Asshole !....
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