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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:43 PM
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Is anyone getting sick of every RW talking head jumping on Chicago as a den of iniquity?
They're talking about the city as if it was San Francisco or something...


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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:44 PM
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1. They are reaching big time! There's no level too low for them n/t
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:44 PM
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2. I find it hilarious. They are really, really grasping lately. n/t
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:45 PM
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3. Jacksonville FL is more corrupt than Chicago. So is Vegas.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:00 PM
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9. Hey, c'mon. Either may be MORE corrupt; but Chicago corruption has more style.
We're talking the former bailiwick of Mayor Richard J. Daley here!
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:17 PM
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25. I am still convinced that Rhode Island is the most corrupt place, but i bow to Chicago's Style.


In RI it's just blatant.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:45 PM
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4. LEt 'em get their pork products elsewhere
Chicago is a GREAT CITY!

Wit two teams in the playoffs, too!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:01 PM
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10. Go Cubbies!
And yay for the Sox, too -- unless they both make the Series, in which case: boo, Sox!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:26 PM
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16. I'd LOVE to see both in the series
Fist fights breaking out in the loop.

Mayor Daley making a bet with himself.

ALL YOUR BASEBALL ARE BELONG TO US!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:46 PM
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5. I love Chicago!
K and R
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:50 PM
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6. Chicago is a cool city
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 12:54 PM by sailor65
San Francisco is disgusting by comparison.....

But Chicago's never been the same since we got Chris Chelios from you! :-)

Edited for clarity
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:51 PM
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7. Heh...in 2004 there was no place worse than Massachusetts. Except, maybe, San Francisco. ;)
Typical fascist spin - wherever there is ANY form of freedom, the fascists always target and smear it.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:58 PM
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8. I love Chitown. It's a great den of iniquity. But it's no San Francisco.
SF -- now there's a den of iniquity that we can all truly love!

I've lived both places; but Chicago is too cold (of course, SF is too expensive).
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:03 PM
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11. what's wrong with Chicago in their minds?
Sounds like something is going on but don't have a clue. Why the sudden rage against this great city?
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:04 PM
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12. Hells yeah. Believe it or not, Chicago is pretty cool. There is corruption everywhere
Chicago is no exception, but neither is it some kind of pit of horror.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:05 PM
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13. They do this crap to NYC all the time too
When they're talking about the elite Northeastern liberals, they're talking about NYC, Boston, etc. I mean NYC also had Tammany Hall grift, the symbol of the gilded age.

Seriously, it's just the same bullshit about how "small towns" are so much better. Fucking stupid pastoral fantasies about the 1950s that just gloss over the hidden troubles-- to me, 1950s America was like the Victorian Age in England. People behaved properly in Victorian England and were very "proper" but their STD rates were also through the roof. 1950s in America was all about the "American Dream" as a suburban fantasy but it neglected to mention the demeaning culture of the white collar worker (angst first depicted in The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit) or the unvoiced societal ills of sexual abuse, violence or sexism.

So yeah, these people beating up on Chicago are the same people who sneer at NYC in the same breath as they cry crocodile tears over 9/11. They're fucking bastards who'd get eaten alive by actual Americans.
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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:06 PM
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14. Bigger question
Why is Chicago so corrupt and why do some wear it as a badge? Why not clean it up instead?

And why is the murder rate in Chicago double the death rate of Americans in Iraq?

Chicago needs some serious help and its image will shine for it.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:30 PM
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17. Chicago is no more corrupt than any other major city.
I daresay Philly probably has more corruption than Chicago.

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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:36 PM
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26. I'll also add my little town is likely just as corrupt as Chicago or Philly
When the townsfolk, DA and magistrate (all Dems) lock up a fellow Dem just because of a
Vermont plate, prejudice and ignorance of facts, it's a bad sign.
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BrokenSocialScene Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:12 PM
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15. Its just a sign of ignorance.
They trash Chicago while having absolutely no understanding of how meaningful it and a couple other major cities in the U.S. are. I dont see 10 million people living in metropolitan Bumblefuck, Nowhere.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:31 PM
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18. Chicago needs to take
revenge on their collective corporatepropaganda$$. :evilgrin:
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:11 PM
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19. No fair
New York has been considered Babylon for far too long for some upstart like Chicago to come and take our crown. I've been to Chicago and it's much too clean and the people are waaaay to nice for it to be a den of inequity. So there.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:16 PM
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20. Chicago's my home town.
I still cheer for the Cubbies and the Sox. (Baseball's the only game I care about.) The best Mother's Day present my son ever gave me sits on top of the piano at this moment: a Luis Aparicio autographed baseball. Chicago has the best museums, the best food, the best art and culture, the best music, the best corruption and style and sass, the best people.

It just has lousy, lousy weather.


Tansy Gold, glad to have a lot of ex-Chicagoans around her in glorious sunny Arizona where we are all gonna turn out to put John McNasty's "home" state in the blue column for Obama
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:17 PM
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21. it's all about the anti-city campaign. code for black vs. white.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:41 PM
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22. The thing is....is that the corruption really is as bad as everyone says.
I have lived in Chicago my whole life, and I can attest.

I've even had to play ball a few times, because its just the way things work in the city.

We are the city that works. Chicago is a beautiful city, and I love Da Mayor, but it probably is as bad as his worst enemies make it out to be.

But there really is something of a consensus that this is just the way things are done.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:41 PM
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23. About as sick as when they do it to DC. (n/t)
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:43 PM
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24. Only problem with Chicago is the winters.
Other than that, I've always loved it.

San Francisco, too.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 05:01 PM
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27. Having lived in Chicago for 57 years, this place looks great, but is a political sewer!
We have the highest sales tax in the nation (10.5%) and our gasoline is frequently the highest in the nation, all in support of a corrupt political dynasty which starts on the 5th floor of City Hall and extends all the way to Springfield.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 06:07 PM
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29. Heh, it is rather amusing to see people from outside of Chicagoland on this thread
Lauding the ethics of the Daley Machine.

Their heart is in the right place, but as you pointed out, the place is a sewer.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 05:03 PM
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28. Most big cities are the same...
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 05:04 PM by Juniperx
There's good, bad, and ugly in all.

If it's good enough for Ol' Blue Eyes, count me in!



Now this could only happen to a guy like me
And only happen in a town like this
So may I say to each of you most gratefully
As I throw each one of you a kiss

This is my kind of town, Chicago is
My kind of town, Chicago is
My kind of people too
People who smile at you

And each time I roam, Chicago is
Calling me home, Chicago is
Why I just brim like a cload
Its my kind of town

My kind of town, Chicago is
My kind of town, Chicago is
My kind of razzmatazz
And it has, all that jazz

And each time I leave, Chicago is
Tuggin my sleeve, Chicago is
The wrigley building, Chicago is
The union stockyard, Chicago is
One town that wont let you down
Its my kind of town
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