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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:14 PM
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“So far, Ms. Palin has it exactly, frighteningly wrong.”
NYT: Dick Cheney, Palin's Role Model

“Saturday's New York Times runs an editorial hammering Gov. Sarah Palin over her debate comments about expanding the powers of the vice president:

In all the talk about the vice-presidential debate, there was an issue that did not get much attention but kept nagging at us: Sarah Palin's description of the role and the responsibilities of the office for which she is running, vice president of the United States.


In Thursday night's debate, Ms. Palin was asked about the vice president's role in government. She said she agreed with Dick Cheney that "we have a lot of flexibility in there" under the Constitution. And she declared that she was "thankful that the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice president also, if that vice president so chose to exert it."

It is hard to tell from Ms. Palin's remarks whether she understands how profoundly Dick Cheney has reshaped the vice presidency -- as part of a larger drive to free the executive branch from all checks and balances. Nor did she seem to understand how much damage that has done to American democracy.” cont…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/04/nyt-dick-cheney-palins-ro_n_131909.html
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:17 PM
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1. I don't think she understands the implications of what she was saying.
She is so clueless.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:19 PM
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3. She reminds me of an opera singer who doesn't understand Italian.
Except her voice makes me crazy.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:22 PM
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5. Dang that is a good analogy.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:35 PM
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15. I doubt she has ever read the consititution, it's not like she went to Law school, Palin
a LOW INFORMATION VOTER
Running for the 2nd highest office in out country, now that's scary
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:17 PM
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2. Cont...
"The NYT continues, saying Palin's understanding the vice presidency "frighteningly wrong":

Mr. Cheney has shown what can happen when a vice president -- a position that is easy to lampoon and overlook -- is given free rein by the president and does not care about trampling on the Constitution.


Mr. Cheney has long taken the bizarre view that the lesson of Watergate was that Congress was too powerful and the president not powerful enough. He dedicated himself to expanding President Bush's authority and arrogating to himself executive, legislative and legal powers that are nowhere in the Constitution.

Any president deserves a vice president who will be a sound adviser and trustworthy supporter. But the American people also deserve and need a vice president who understands and respects the balance of power -- and the limits of his or her own power. That is fundamental to our democracy.

So far, Ms. Palin has it exactly, frighteningly wrong."
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:21 PM
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4. If Clueless had no idea what she was saying, she SHOULD have known she was talking like a dictator
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 04:22 PM by tblue
and, since she & her klan have done everything to derail Troopergate, I shudder to think what else she might come up with to put herself above the law. Power corrupts, ya know?
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:25 PM
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7. Don't Forget
Claiming executive privilege for her Yahoo emails.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:24 PM
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6. I can see how she would think that's okay, because Cheney hasn't been held accountable for anything.
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 04:25 PM by quiet.american
We know he's one of the biggest traitors to the Constitution of the United States we've ever seen, yet he's never been held to account.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:28 PM
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8. Bingo
And because Nixon and Raygun weren't he thought he could get with it. Oh yeah, thanks Nancy, when you take things off the table, people try to steal them.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 05:30 PM
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9. Kicking This
Having watched the destruction the shadow government wreaked upon us and the havoc it caused, I cannot believe I am hearing the equivalent of an Avon lady say she believes she is entitled to even more power than Cheney had.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 05:32 PM
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10. slightly OT--the picture of Cheney at that link is hilarious n/t
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 05:48 PM
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11. Exactly Him
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 05:53 PM
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12. If they told her to stand up there on stage and bark like a dog,
roll over and then shit on herself, she would do it. She is a fucking idiot who continues to read the hate messages they tell her to read. As my dad used to say, "I don't think she has a brain in her head."
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 05:58 PM
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13. She is the spokemodel for the McCain campaign.
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:06 PM
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14. or as Mom used to say, "dumber than a stump."
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:48 PM
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16. I don't understand something. Why would she even do this?
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 07:06 PM by kenny blankenship
It's much smarter for her to say I understand the traditional, Constitutionally prescribed role of the Vice President and that's all I'm running for. As Vice President I will not be a "co-President", or taking on primary responsibility for policy creation in certain areas. You will not be hearing stories of some huge policy apparatus, working for me, parallel to and separate from the President's staff. I am not Dick Cheney and John McCain will not allow his subordinates to go spinning off in their own directions, running different parts of the Executive in their own ways. There will be one President.

Much safer politically than what she said: "the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice president also, if that vice president so chose to exert it."
That's crazy talk.

How about "The Speaker of the House, on behalf of the coequal branch of Congress, can order half of our armies and half of our aircraft carriers around wherever she pleases"?
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