losing Mccain the pro life voters.... remind them the republicans will do nothing about abortion

Rather than arguing Mccain is going to overturn roe vs wade, which just fuels the pro life cause, why not point out the dreadful track record of the republican party (and Mccain/Palin on the subject). Someone strongly pro life might never vote Obama, but you can at least point out the republicans are unlikely to do anything about it either.



They had congress, the senate and the white house for 6 years and never did anything about abortion.

7 of the 9 current supreme court appointees were appointed by republicans. Reagan, long regarded as the most anti choice of presidents, somehow ending up appointing Sandra O'Day, a strong defender of choice. I mean, Reagan said he was tricked and thought she was against it, but come on. Its surprising he fell for it.

Mccain would have to get these uber conservative judges he claims he's going to appoint judge through a democrat senate.

The republicans are well aware of a potential political backlash to roe vs wade and are concerned about it. (Tom Davis basically admitted they have a polticial cushion as long as its safe and legal)

Out of the Bush appointees, Roberts has went on record as saying he respects roe vs wade (I'm not saying he wouldn't overturn it, but he's not as 100% certain to overturn it as people think)

Mccain said he'd let his then fifteen year old daughter have an abortion and said in 1999 he didn't want it overturned.

Even Palin...slipped up in a few interviews (what's new) when she said she thought there was a right to privacy in the constitution. There was also the whole counselling a rape victim to 'choose life' whatever that means (hey, Sarah making it illegal means they don't have a choice).


I think pro life people need to be reminded they are being strung along. Apart from that, many don't have any other reason to vote for them.

If they ban abortion, they lose their carrot.

NGU.

overturning roe vs wade, that would be bad. But banning it altogether? Its political suicide.

You only need 40 votes to filibuster and 51 votes to keep a jurist from being elevated to the Supreme Court.

That's why Roberts and Alito are on the court today.

'They had congress, the senate and the white house for 6 years and never did anything about abortion.'

THIS IS WHAT I'M TALING ABOUT!

I mean, a lot of gay people might not be happy that Biden and Obama are against gay marriage, but at least they're not lying about it. They're pretty honest about it.


These people don't mind be lied to every four years?

And my own opinion is...if Mccain does get elected, he says he wants a second term. He's not going to risk a second term by getting a judge to overturn roe vs wade in his first term. So, for the first 4 years, an overturn is very unlikely. And then in 2012 he can just say to pro lifers, 'well, this time I'll appoint a pro life judge.'

I think democrats are in a tight spot with this. You want to say to people 'you might lose your right to choose.' but at the same time, its valid to point out that the republicans might not be entirely serious about overturning roe vs wade.

These yahoos vote against their interests on every single other issue just for this one, so you'd think they'd demand action on it.

Obama's position is likely to result in fewer abortions:




http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13217.html

Whereas Gramps and the Repukes only attack the "problem" from the very top. It'll be years, if ever, and then all they'll have is states allowed to make their own decisions.