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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:09 AM
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***McCain changes homeowner plan
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14414.html


Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) made an overnight change in the homeowner bailout he proposed at Tuesday’s presidential debate, making it more generous to financial institutions and more costly for taxpayers.

McCain's staff says it was always meant that way.

When McCain sprung his surprise idea at the start of the debate in Nashville, his campaign posted details online of his American Homeownership Resurgence Plan, which would direct the government to buy up bad home mortgages, allowing strapped people to keep their property.

The document posted and e-mailed by the McCain campaign on Tuesday night says at the end of its first full paragraph: “Lenders in these cases must recognize the loss that they’ve already suffered.”

So the government would buy the mortgages at a discounted rate, reflecting the declining value of the mortgage paper.

But when McCain reissued the document on Wednesday, that sentence was missing, to the dismay of many conservatives.

That would mean the U.S. would pay face value for the troubled documents, which was the main reason Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) gave for opposing the plan.

A McCain campaign official explained the change: “That language was mistakenly included in the initial draft and it’s been corrected. It doesn’t reflect the intentions of the initiative, which necessitated the correction and the removal of the sentence. A simple mistake.”

Obama Campaign Economic Policy Director Jason Furman said in the campaign statement opposing McCain's plan: "John McCain wants the government to massively overpay for mortgages in a plan that would guarantee taxpayers lose money, and put them at risk of losing even more if home values don’t recover. The biggest beneficiaries of this plan will be the same financial institutions that got us into this mess, some of whom even committed fraud."

The McCain campaign estimates in both documents that the plan would cost about $300 billion
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:09 AM
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1. What--is THIS the big "something to talk about" story?
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:10 AM
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2. Is this what they want to talk about tomorrow? n/t
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:11 AM
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3. So this is the thing they're going to talk about?
God I am so tired of people panicking and throwing out these lame ass rumors!

:eyes:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:12 AM
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4. dunno if this is it....Obama has been running for 2 yrs...really don't
think their is anything else out there.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:13 AM
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5. no kidding...some people around here are afraid of their own shadow.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:25 AM
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13. I don't think they want to talk about THIS
:rofl:

The banks don't even get a penalty for their noxious lending practices/ Just straight money delivered to the banks with no deliverable for the tax payer. That's just fucking great. Obama's gonna have a field day on this one.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:16 AM
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6. Okay. W.T.F.
It's like he WANTS to be seen as the "erratic" candidate.

Is this guy trying to lose?
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:18 AM
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7. This same change in plan story is at the wall street journal page too.
This guy is nuts...he ought to give it up and just try to finish the last few weeks. He's making up shit as he goes. He's getting all mavericky on us!
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:19 AM
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9. In the NY Post today, some undecided voter in Ohio they interviewed said Obama was...
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 01:21 AM by Bicoastal
..."too predictable." Yup, that's not who we want in the White House--we want a nutty kook jumping all over the place.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:26 AM
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14. stupid idiots! "I want a president and leader who keeps me guessing!" n/t
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:19 AM
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8. god, the McCain camp is so full of it
"It doesn’t reflect the intentions of the initiative, which necessitated the correction and the removal of the sentence. A simple mistake.”


aka, give us one more chance, we'll get it right next time! How did that work out with the Katie Couric interview, eh guys?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:21 AM
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10. Steady Hand at the Tiller? NOT!
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

You'll remember that new plan to refinance people's mortgages that John McCain sprung on everyone in last night's debate in a typically mavericky fashion. Well, after about twenty hours of thinking it over, it seems McCain wants to make the plan completely different.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:58 AM
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26. I think he meant "hand in the till." nt
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:21 AM
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29. You, my friend, are a genius. And I'm stealing your line!
8^)
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:23 AM
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11. EPIC FUCKING FAIL
That'll go over like a lead balloon. More gravy for the banks at the expense of the US taxpayer.

Good plan, McCain!

:rofl:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:24 AM
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12. The Obama campaign is already seeing thru this bs...
"The biggest beneficiaries of this plan will be the same financial institutions that got us into this mess, some of whom even committed fraud."



They really think we're stupid! He's still trying to help his friends on his way out of the campaign. Asshole!
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:28 AM
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17. Wow. Just fucking WOW.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:27 AM
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15. WOW! The dude has gone WAY over the deep end with this one. lmao!
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 01:30 AM by msallied
Is he serious? Is he trying to out-left the left now? Jesus fucking CHRIST! It's like he stuck his finger in the wind and figured what most people were clamoring for aid directly to the middle class so he said "Aw what the hell, let's buy us up some bad mortgages!" Is he really hoping to change the minds of independents and undecideds with this? What about his own fucking party??
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:29 AM
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18. u gotta remember...we're a coupla mavericks..getting all
mavericky on ya.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:30 AM
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20. LOL! Just when I think I have the maverick pinned down, he out-mavericks me again!!
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:28 AM
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16. Headline: AARP Candidate Amends AHRP Plan and Makes PPPP in Depends.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:31 AM
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21. That was good....
:rofl:
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Schulzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:29 AM
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19. Great! Now Obama has another point to talk about in the third debate. nt
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:33 AM
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22. McCain changed his position on something?
How unusual. :sarcasm:
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:46 AM
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23. John McCain = 2nd Great Depression
The dude just does not inspire confidence in a severe economic crisis.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:48 AM
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24. He's not smart, never has been, he has not struggled financially
a day in his life....everything has been handed to him. He doesn't give a shit about this country.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:39 AM
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25. His plan assures lenders they will not lose a dime on bad home loans.
It doesn't assure consumers they will stay in their homes or get a new loan deal.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:05 AM
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27. The only thing not erratic about McCain is his failure to understand economics.
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 04:10 AM by krkaufman
He's pretty consistently off-base. McCain wants us to buy high and sell low, basically forking over billions to irresponsible banks.

Operation Desperate Storm rolls on....
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:06 AM
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28. I like how he can talk about this and a "spending freeze" in practically the same breath
Some powerful capacity for cognitive dissonance on him.
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