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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:39 AM
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tpi10d Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:41 AM
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1. others have posted
and I strongly agree a smear would not be released this way. It would be leaked quietly to a news outlet.

Most likely it is a lukewarm economic proposal.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:45 AM
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5. Perhaps
However, after listening to the video of Palin supporters posted here earlier, those people were spouting off about socialist organizations, ACORN and other such nonsense. If one takes into account that the press is being discouraged from speaking to Palin supporters directly, then one has to surmise that this is the flavor of kool-aide that is being passed out at her rallies.

McSame's big news may not be what I mentioned, but if it is, I am providing rebuttal material.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:41 AM
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2. I doubt it--this isn't usually how smears are presented to the public.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:42 AM
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3. Honestly I dont see whats wrong with this
Whats the point?

What is wrong with New Party?
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weezie1317 Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:44 AM
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4. They endorsed Obama. He was never a member. Obama has always been a Democrat.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:48 AM
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6. The "New Party" doesn't seem socialist to me.. but more utopian.
Their vision for America doesn't seem THAT far out there... I wonder how anyone could argue with a society that had work available to everyone, and enough money to feed your family, a clean environment, and strong schools. That's "socialism?" Notice that there is no mention of subsidizing people, just having jobs for everyone... isn't that the ideal for our economy?

If this is what those nutjobs are salivating over, they can just give it up. The stupid character attacks don't work. McVain is still a doddering old fool that has a nasty streak, and he is still aligned with Bush.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:10 AM
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7. The DSA is far from being "out there":
There's always been an overlap between the DSA and the Democrats. Bernie Sanders is a card-carrying member. They are at most, just a hair to the left of Kucinich. DSA is extraordinary mainstream in the progressive world, and if the New Party was affiliated with the DSA, they were just a little more "radical", almost imperceptibly more "radical", than the Progressive Democrats of America.

I.e., not very radical crazy extremist at all, except to those too dense to recognize the vast difference between democratic socialism (that is, the point of view shared by the left of the Democratic Party and by a great number of mainstream "labor" and "socialist" parties in Europe and elsewhere in the world) and hardline Stalinism.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:14 AM
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8. It was never "socialist" at all...
I was a member. I read their entire platform and all their position papers. They were pretty much mainstream liberals -- if anything, to the right of the DSA.

As I said earlier, equating the NP to socialism is as loony as equating the Libertarian Party to Nazism.

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